Difficulty Upgrading in 2012
#16
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Has anyone else noticed a lack of space in J for upgrades this year? Flights that I've been upgrading successfully for the last 5 years are completely sold out in J weeks before the flight even leaves. So far I've not been able to upgrade a single flight this year. One had 5 SE in front of me (of which only 2 got upgrades) and on all of the others J is sold out. So far this year I'm starting to wonder what the perks are for having status.
Also, Elite is the worst status to currently have because there's no distinction between those getting it at 35K or those getting it at 95K, thus the numbers and priorities are complicated. Next year's system will help significantly, at least for those earning 75K+ but not 100K for SE. These folks will likely benefit far more in upgrade priority than lower tier Es. But the overall situation will improve for some, further decline for others.
#17




Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 3,519
I have to say I've never had better success with upgrades, on both domestic and TATL flights. To the point I only have two upgrade credits left as of this morning. A trip to the States next week should bring another 10 credits. I'll be living on these threshold bonuses for the rest of the year.
This time last year, I think I only rode up front two or three times. Same routes, same rough dates. I can't explain.
This time last year, I think I only rode up front two or three times. Same routes, same rough dates. I can't explain.
#18




Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE-MM, FB Platinum, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott lifetime Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,872
Have had a 100% upgrade success rate this year, all on T+ flightpass bookings. Generally YYZ-ORD and YYZ-YUL in both directions (Monday mornings and Thursday evenings, so primetime for upgrades) as well as one YYZ-YVR-YUL last weekend.
Upgrades generally clear in advance, although a few have gone down to the gate (YYZ-YVR on Friday afternoon was a particular example).
Upgrades generally clear in advance, although a few have gone down to the gate (YYZ-YVR on Friday afternoon was a particular example).
#19
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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I have to say I've never had better success with upgrades, on both domestic and TATL flights. To the point I only have two upgrade credits left as of this morning. A trip to the States next week should bring another 10 credits. I'll be living on these threshold bonuses for the rest of the year.
This time last year, I think I only rode up front two or three times. Same routes, same rough dates. I can't explain.
This time last year, I think I only rode up front two or three times. Same routes, same rough dates. I can't explain.
#20



Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AC SE, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,365
Has anyone else noticed a lack of space in J for upgrades this year? Flights that I've been upgrading successfully for the last 5 years are completely sold out in J weeks before the flight even leaves. So far I've not been able to upgrade a single flight this year. One had 5 SE in front of me (of which only 2 got upgrades) and on all of the others J is sold out. So far this year I'm starting to wonder what the perks are for having status.
#21
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
Programs: NEXUS; alas, no status anymore.
Posts: 1,181
I'm only a lonely P, but every single flight I've flown on AC or QK that has had executive class seating has been available for me at T-48 hours for an eUpgrade (and sometimes a lot closer to departure than that). This includes:
YWG-YYZ (twice)
YYZ-YQR (I upgraded this)
YYZ-DCA (I saved my points and upgraded with an LMU)
YQR-YOW (I upgraded this)
YOW-YYC (I was two points short so I upgraded with an LMU)
YWG-YYZ (twice)
YYZ-YQR (I upgraded this)
YYZ-DCA (I saved my points and upgraded with an LMU)
YQR-YOW (I upgraded this)
YOW-YYC (I was two points short so I upgraded with an LMU)
#22



Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
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Posts: 8,969
I guess technically all my upgrades have cleared too....as if it hasn't at T-2 I cancel the trip or move it to another carrier that has reasonably priced J.
#23

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: AC*E50
Posts: 608
OP is referring to non-NA Lat pass travel. International Lat passes don't have 48hr comp-ups, and most people can't/don't use passes for various reasons. Be glad you aren't caught in the same situation...
#25

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE
Posts: 825
Burned through my first T+ flight pass in the last month (exclusively YYC-YYZ and return) without a single waitlisted upgrade clearing. I travel at close to peak times for business travellers, but I'm impressed with AC's load management - flights are always jam packed.
Had on one occasion the experience (noted by others) of having R space open up on a flight, that I am waitlisted for, within 24 hours of check in (expertflyer alert). Promptly cancelled check in, cancelled upgrade request, requested it again and, voila, confirmed.
I'm getting used to the poor man's upgrade - exit row, a roast beef sandwich, and two teeny tiny bottles of red wine.
Had on one occasion the experience (noted by others) of having R space open up on a flight, that I am waitlisted for, within 24 hours of check in (expertflyer alert). Promptly cancelled check in, cancelled upgrade request, requested it again and, voila, confirmed.
I'm getting used to the poor man's upgrade - exit row, a roast beef sandwich, and two teeny tiny bottles of red wine.
#27
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: YHZ
Programs: AC SE, SPG Plat w/Ambassador, HH Diam
Posts: 26
I am nearly 100% to date - on 65 legs. Mostly YHZ to YYZ, but 1 YVR to YHZ flight. I use Maritime Flight Pass. I only missed one that I can recall since January, and only 1 last year after I hit SE (Sept '11) and found out how cheap the Eupgrades are on the Flight Pass.
Love the bigger seats and leg room.
Love the bigger seats and leg room.
#28
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 648
its getting tougher
My experience
yyz - lhr forget about it, seems to never clear with moderate success in the past....am migrating to other carriers as the year continues
asia i use other carriers, same with middle east so no comment
But on myriad domestic/north american routes i use to to bat a thousand, especially to the southwest......this year i am finding that i have to be far more flexible in dates and even airports.
So I would have to agree with OP. In fact to/from YVR is 0%!
I will be attempting some Delta flights in the near future as I have been given 'gold' status there and i have heard on here that upgrades are fairly successful if not almost 100%......we will see.
PS, i have also noticed that in the past J class had many open seats and now it is always 90/95% full (great while it lasted but completely understandable )
yyz - lhr forget about it, seems to never clear with moderate success in the past....am migrating to other carriers as the year continues
asia i use other carriers, same with middle east so no comment
But on myriad domestic/north american routes i use to to bat a thousand, especially to the southwest......this year i am finding that i have to be far more flexible in dates and even airports.
So I would have to agree with OP. In fact to/from YVR is 0%!
I will be attempting some Delta flights in the near future as I have been given 'gold' status there and i have heard on here that upgrades are fairly successful if not almost 100%......we will see.
PS, i have also noticed that in the past J class had many open seats and now it is always 90/95% full (great while it lasted but completely understandable )
Last edited by bizorbetter; Jun 27, 2012 at 6:11 pm Reason: to add PS comment



