Missing windows?

Old May 25, 12, 4:52 pm
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Missing windows?

I'll admit this is a bit of a geeky question, but I've always wondered why some aircraft have no windows in certain rows?

Row 1, 6 and 11 on the 777s for example have no window.
Row 6 on some 763's

Is it a structural issue or is there some logic as to why?

And is there a difference between no window and a window "plug" that seems to have been put there after the aircraft was built?
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Old May 25, 12, 4:56 pm
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Usually it is where the air conditioning ducts are placed
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Old May 25, 12, 8:18 pm
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When there is no evidence of window at all, it would be for ducts or other infrastructure as already pointed out.

You occasionally see an older plane with a widow hole that appears closed over on the outside - I have always assumed that is because of something like a galley directly on the inside. I suspect that with the way they need to be able reconfigure the interiors these days, removing windows like that isnt done much any more or than for private jets.

I did once have the "pleasure" of getting a window seat without a window and hated it. I love looking out and taking pictures!
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Old May 25, 12, 8:47 pm
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There is no window in row 19 of the 77W, but there is in the 77L. I also remember before 767 XM days that row 13 had no window - not sure which row that is now.

But I love the 777 lavatory windows in the middle of the J cabins. With the propensity for shades down no matter what, it's a refuge for seeing the marvels of the world below.
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Old May 25, 12, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by fin 645 View Post

But I love the 777 lavatory windows in the middle of the J cabins. With the propensity for shades down no matter what, it's a refuge for seeing the marvels of the world below.
Nothing compares to the joy I feel when I take a P and look down 35,000 feet...
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Originally Posted by Mustang Sally View Post
I'll admit this is a bit of a geeky question, but I've always wondered why some aircraft have no windows in certain rows?

Row 1, 6 and 11 on the 777s for example have no window.
Row 6 on some 763's

Is it a structural issue or is there some logic as to why?

And is there a difference between no window and a window "plug" that seems to have been put there after the aircraft was built?
Actually row 6 on the 77W/77L does have a window, but only one whereas the other rows in the front section have two. The seat 10A in the A330 however does not have any windows.
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Old May 26, 12, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by fin 645 View Post
But I love the 777 lavatory windows in the middle of the J cabins. With the propensity for shades down no matter what, it's a refuge for seeing the marvels of the world below.

Yes its a great window looking at the massive engine. looks great during the daylight and you can stand there and simply stare out the window for a long time and enjoy that quiet and Tranquil moment.
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Old May 26, 12, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by ACflyerDE View Post
Actually row 6 on the 77W/77L does have a window, but only one whereas the other rows in the front section have two. The seat 10A in the A330 however does not have any windows.
A window is "missing" between seat 5A/K and 6A/K. The last overhead bin above 6A/K has some equipment in it that cannot be used and the small one between 6A/5A is usually used to store extra toilet papers and Kleenex. However, the FA will usually remove them if you request.
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Old May 26, 12, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Z-man View Post
Nothing compares to the joy I feel when I take a P and look down 35,000 feet...
I don't know why but I STILL have to close the window!

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