ZRH-HKG via NRT or BKK?
Dec 14, 2011, 3:00 pm
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ZRH-HKG via NRT or BKK?
Hi Guys,
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Dec 14, 2011, 3:04 pm
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Hi Guys,
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
TG F is good if you are on one of the suites.
NH F intra Asia isn't as good as longhaul F.
CA isn't that bad given how short PVG-HKG is.
Last edited by AA_EXP09; Dec 14, 2011 at 3:09 pm Reason: PVG, not PEK
Dec 14, 2011, 3:37 pm
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Hi Guys,
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
I also am flying NH HKG-HND, and even though it is business class, it looks like the plane actually has 8 First Class seats which they classify as business for that flight. I believe I get a first class seat, but business meal, etc. Sounds good to me!
PS-I suppose you could also fly OZ from FRA to ICN and then over to HKG.
Dec 14, 2011, 3:37 pm
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If you arrive on TG F and connect to TG F (or C in 2 cabin flights) you will be whisked away at arrival by a TG agent and directed to the spa lounge where you can receive an hour of full body massage.
It's quite nice after a long haul.
It's quite nice after a long haul.
Dec 14, 2011, 4:11 pm
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The ground experience and the F lounge access incl. the massage at BKK are great when flying TG F.
Apart from that, I prefer LX F, but it may be a cultural thing.
Another consideration may be: TG F award availability is excellent, and I don´t see that changing in the near future. LH has massively decreased/elimiated F award availability over the last few weeks/months and I wouldn´t be surprised of LX were to follow. (of course I´m hoping my pessimistic forecast is wrong)
Apart from that, I prefer LX F, but it may be a cultural thing.
Another consideration may be: TG F award availability is excellent, and I don´t see that changing in the near future. LH has massively decreased/elimiated F award availability over the last few weeks/months and I wouldn´t be surprised of LX were to follow. (of course I´m hoping my pessimistic forecast is wrong)
Dec 14, 2011, 4:13 pm
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The best part with my itin is that ZRH-PVG-CKG-HKG has tons of availability.
(Although you would only get F on CKG-HKG and ZRH-PVG)
On NH I see the CA codeshare as bookable....
The Chinese visa is also cheaper than YQ.
(Although you would only get F on CKG-HKG and ZRH-PVG)
On NH I see the CA codeshare as bookable....
The Chinese visa is also cheaper than YQ.
Dec 14, 2011, 6:15 pm
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I personally would avoid connecting in China as long delay without announcement/explanation is common.
In flight experience of CA F is worse than AC J domestic.
Dec 14, 2011, 6:36 pm
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Connection at PVG does not need visa. You can enter China at PVG for 48 hours visa free but must have connecting ticket. You must claim your luggage, go through immigration, go upstairs to departure level (with your luggage) and check in again.
I personally would avoid connecting in China as long delay without announcement/explanation is common.
In flight experience of CA F is worse than AC J domestic.
I personally would avoid connecting in China as long delay without announcement/explanation is common.
In flight experience of CA F is worse than AC J domestic.
That's why I'm glad I do.
Dec 14, 2011, 9:44 pm
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Hi Guys,
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Need some advice. I have to change the date of my ZRH-HKG leg of my Aeroplan routing. Booking is in F. I was originally on LX 138 (direct), but there is no more space on the new dates I was considering. For F, my current options are now TG via BKK, or on LX/NH via NRT (the LX via BKK is not showing any availability on 1st). I know both are excellent airlines and offer great service, but are there any significant differences between the services (lounge in ZRH/BKK/NRT, ameneties on board, etc) offered by TG vs LX on these long hauls to Asia that I should consider one vs the other? . Thanks.
Dec 15, 2011, 12:07 am
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My last connection at PEK to TAO: 2 hours late. No incoming plane. No posting on gate monitor. Announcement in Chinese only about 30 minutes after scheduled departure time.
Dec 17, 2011, 5:55 am
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F class on china air SUCKS
If your choice is Thai or LX they are both outstanding, either Swiss effiency with a smile or Asian over the top service
Flew all 3 in the past year
China Air was dirty incompetent and probably the worst F class experience ever.
Thru points I have been lucky enough to have at least 15 A class under my belt and I have 14 great memories and I nightmare
Flew all 3 in the past year
China Air was dirty incompetent and probably the worst F class experience ever.
Thru points I have been lucky enough to have at least 15 A class under my belt and I have 14 great memories and I nightmare
Dec 17, 2011, 6:47 am
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If your choice is Thai or LX they are both outstanding, either Swiss effiency with a smile or Asian over the top service
Flew all 3 in the past year
China Air was dirty incompetent and probably the worst F class experience ever.
Thru points I have been lucky enough to have at least 15 A class under my belt and I have 14 great memories and I nightmare
Flew all 3 in the past year
China Air was dirty incompetent and probably the worst F class experience ever.
Thru points I have been lucky enough to have at least 15 A class under my belt and I have 14 great memories and I nightmare
Dec 17, 2011, 7:51 am
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I know F on CA isn't the best, but please remember that all CA legs are just short Chinese domestic flights.
Dec 17, 2011, 2:45 pm
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Air China not sky team
Air China is not sky team i think China Southern, China Eastern and China Air are skyteam partners
And unforunatley we flew Air china long haul Shanghai to Frankfurt A class and then Frankfurt to Miami A class on the new A388 ( we were grandfathered in it was booked prior to LH switching from 747 service
The air china was god awful, the lufthansa was incredible
And unforunatley we flew Air china long haul Shanghai to Frankfurt A class and then Frankfurt to Miami A class on the new A388 ( we were grandfathered in it was booked prior to LH switching from 747 service
The air china was god awful, the lufthansa was incredible
Dec 17, 2011, 2:57 pm
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It's either Air China (CA) or China Airlines (CI)