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Old May 30, 2013, 9:55 pm
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FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries version 2.0 (post-"enhancement&quot

INTRO

This wiki is taken from the excellent overview in the first post of this thread by FrequentFlyer9000 and is meant as a guide to the Aeroplan "Mini-RTW" for the uninformed newbie flyer. This is a no judgment zone and newbies are welcome. In this thread, the usage of scary acronyms and complicated FlyerTalk insider-speak will be minimized.

Also, this wiki is a work in progress so please provide feedback or make wiki edits if you think something warrants it.

INFO & COMMON QUESTIONS

What is the "Mini-RTW"?

The Mini-RTW is a name given to a type of reward booking using Air Canada's Aeroplan miles. It is actually not a "round-the-world" ticket at all - it is a regular award redemption. Just as you would use 75K frequent flyer miles to go to Japan on another airline, you can use 75K to do so using Aeroplan miles. The difference is that Aeroplan allows you to "stopover" in multiple cities at no extra mileage cost, making it very attractive compared to other reward travel. It should be noted that this isn't really that much better than some other airlines. For example, Delta offers one stopover + open jaw, which is only one stopover worse than Aeroplan's deal. But many of the airlines only offer one stopover and no open jaw. So there is definitely value here.

In addition to your final destination (in which you can stay for days/weeks/months), you are allowed:

•Two stopovers in other cities (stay for days/weeks/months). You are allowed to trade one of these stopovers for an open jaw (where you land in one city, but take the next flight out of another city)
•10 segments (layovers during which you spend less than 24 hours in a given city) <-- this limit may be gone as of 2014/2015

So, disregarding the additional 10 segments, an award trip for Japan could actually look like this:

NYC > Tokyo (destination - one week) > Paris (stopover - one week) > London (stopover - one week) > NYC

You basically get three times the world exploration for the price of one. If you add on the extra layovers allowed, you can turn it into:

NYC > Los Angeles (one day) > Hawaii (one day) > Tokyo (one week) > Seoul (one day) > Hong Kong (one day) > Paris (one week) > Munich (one day) > London (one week) > Washington DC (one day) > NYC

Of course, you don't have to do the above. Spending so much time in airports can be exhausting. But the option is there for you if you want it.


How many miles is this going to cost me?

See the Award Travel chart here.

From North America to "Asia 1" countries: (effective Jan 1, 2014)
•75K in Economy
•150K in Business
•210K in First

From North America to "Europe 1" countries:
•60K in Economy
•90K in Business
•125K in First

...and so on. Check the link for other combinations. Assuming you are stopping in three cities, the city in the most "expensive" redemption zone is the zone you will have to pay for. So if you are visiting two Asia1 zone cities and one Middle East city, you will pay 80K miles rather than 75K miles since that is what the Middle East trip costs (numbers assume Economy class travel).

Which miles do I need to use? Can I use miles from other Star Alliance airlines?

You need to use Aeroplan miles. You cannot use miles from other Star Alliance members, such as United, to book this mini-RTW. However, you can book flights for the mini-RTW on any airline that is in the alliance and has the desired award seating available. You technically do not have to fly any segments on Air Canada at all.

So, what's the catch? What are the restrictions?

There is no catch. However, there are some restrictions on your itinerary. This is where things get a bit more complicated.

Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
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This is no longer valid after 10/29/2014
1) Your itinerary must be within 5% of the total "Maximum Permitted Mileage" (MPM) for the route from the origin to the destination. Even though you are stopping in three cities by using your two stopovers and a final destination, you can define the destination as the stop city furthest away from the origin. Although certain flyers have gotten away with telling an inattentive phone rep that their final destination / "turnaround city" is one of their layover cities to increase their MPM, this does not always work. Sticking with one of your three stop cities is a safe bet.

MPM exist so that you cannot repeatedly fly around the world 10 times on your 10 segments. There is a limit to how many miles you can fly on the reward ticket. MPM guidelines can be found by using the KVS tool or by using Expert Flyer. MPM is calculated between your origin and your destination, one-way. The trips to and from your destination are calculated separately. You are allowed to overshoot this number by 5% ("MPM5"). If you can find a bookable itinerary online that has a mileage longer than the published MPM, this is a "published routing" and can be used even if it exceeds the MPM5. In KVS, navigate to the "Reference" tab, select "MPM" from the dropdown menu, and enter your city pair. MPM information is available under the Travel Information section of ExpertFlyer. It is available to all subscribers, Basic or Premium, and there is a 5-day free trial to ExpertFlyer.com that can be used.

To see if your itinerary fits your MPM limit, you can use the site here to see your total miles traveled: www.gcmap.com. Enter your airport codes separated by dashes to see the itinerary and get the total mileage (e.g. NYC - LHR - NYC). Example here.

TO READ MORE ABOUT MPM: Read this (short) document
2) If you do elect to use an open jaw instead of one of your stopovers, you must schedule the open jaw so that it is in the same "IATA zone" as either the origin or the destination city. So if you are going from NY to Japan to Europe and back to NY, the open jaw cannot be scheduled in Europe, since it is neither the origin zone or the destination zone. The open jaw also cannot be a larger distance than any two legs you are actually flying. In case you are wondering, IATA zones are as follows:

IATA 1 - The Americas (incl. Caribbean, Hawaii)
IATA 2 - Europe as far as the Ural Mountain range, Middle East & Africa
IATA 3 - Oceania, SE Asia, Far East, Sub-Continent.

Remember that if you use your open jaw at the turnaround/destination point, you will only have one stopover to use left. So you would be able to do NYC > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. This has one destination, one open jaw (at turnaround point), and one stopover. However, you would not be able to do this: NYC > Madrid (stop) > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. Because your 2 stops + 1 open jaw would be more than the two allowed.

3) You cannot land in the same city twice in any one direction. This means that on my way from NY to, let's say, Cairo, I cannot do New York > London > Paris > London > Cairo on the way there, since I would be stopping in London twice in one direction. However, I can stop in London on the way to Cairo and then again on the way back from Cairo.

4) The actual trip needs to be "bookable". It needs to follow certain rules. I won't get into too many details, but anything completely nonsensical in terms of routing is generally not going to fly. But most routes will not fall into this category. Just something to keep in mind.


Do I have to go in the same direction for every leg of the flight?

No. As an example, you can cross the Atlantic twice or cross both the Atlantic and the Pacific once (more like a real RTW trip).


How do I book this?

Assuming you have already planned out your entire itinerary to the dot and have made sure your trip is in accordance with the above restrictions, call Aeroplan and speak with a representative. Alternatively, you can try to book online for free. However, this is not always possible with more complicated routings.


What will this cost me in real cash? How can I minimize fees?
It depends on the region you travel to and which airline you fly on. In general, the more Air Canada segments you fly the more fees/taxes you will pay. Aeroplan does not collect surcharges on non-Air Canada-operated flights. So flying Air Canada internationally will cost you extra. If you use a lot of Air Canada flights in your mini-RTW, your fees could be anywhere from $150 to $400, even sometimes creeping up above $600. Lesson is to avoid AC "metal" (airplanes) if possible.

Every trip will have a $30 cost per person for booking on the phone, regardless of the itinerary.


What are the change fees if I want to change a leg or multiple legs of the trip later?

$90 for changes after original booking. If there is an involuntary change because of flight schedules changing, there is no fee charged. Note that when you make a change, the taxes/fees associated with fuel, etc. may change. They may decrease or increase depending on the previous flight and the new flight. This is independent of the $90 rebooking fee. The $90 is flat regardless of how many of the segments you change. It is not $90 per changed segment.


How do I plan this trip out? Even finding a simple award ticket can be difficult online, let alone one with 10 segments!

Good question. It is recommended that you use either the All-Nippon Airways (ANA) website (guide on how here), the KVS tool (costs money) or ExpertFlyer (costs money), or http://FliSea.com. I personally like to use KVS, but it is not newbie-friendly. It is $20 for 2 months for the "diamond" level service, and $75 for a year. Small price to pay for saving a lot of time, if you can handle the learning curve. ANA is a good free method of finding segments and many people have had plenty of success with it; FliSea is a metasearch tool that uses all of the sites above.

The trick is to do this one segment at a time. So first find NYC > LONDON for the date you want and make sure that the award class you are looking for is available (e.g. Economy low fare). Then do the next leg: LONDON > ROME. Repeat for every segment. Write down the details of each flight, calculate the mileage using the www.gcmap.com resource, and call up Aeroplan to book.

One of our Flyertalk members has built a database with all the Mini-RTW routes that have been flown in the various threads in one simple place: http://www.turnleftat.com/mini-rtw-list/
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Old May 26, 2014, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by jerryhung
Good to know, Nim
I need 3 seats in J in 2015, and sometimes it's hard to find 3 altogether
On most major airlines I feel safe booking 2J/1Y these days. Especially after all the devaluations and so on, I figure there will be a bit less miles chasing seats, so should not be too bad waiting for the last seat to open up.
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Old May 28, 2014, 8:57 am
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I'd like to know if something like this would be possible on a mini-RTW:

1- ICN - YZV
2- YZV - ICN
3- ICN - NRT

I already have my trip booked as ICN - YZV, then YZV - ICN, but I'd like to know if I could add another trip somehow to make the most of my miles. I didn't have time to stop anywhere on the way there or on the return part of my trip, but then I thought maybe I could add something I would fly later when I do have time. IF that's possible, of course. I tried to do it with Aeroplan's web site, but I only got the message "•Your requested itinerary is invalid and cannot be booked on one reward."
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Old May 28, 2014, 9:10 am
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In theory I think it should be possible if it can be done within the mileage allowance, you can use an open jaw at the beginning and end of the trip.
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Old May 28, 2014, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by erik19283
I'd like to know if something like this would be possible on a mini-RTW:

1- ICN - YZV
2- YZV - ICN
3- ICN - NRT

I already have my trip booked as ICN - YZV, then YZV - ICN, but I'd like to know if I could add another trip somehow to make the most of my miles. I didn't have time to stop anywhere on the way there or on the return part of my trip, but then I thought maybe I could add something I would fly later when I do have time. IF that's possible, of course. I tried to do it with Aeroplan's web site, but I only got the message "•Your requested itinerary is invalid and cannot be booked on one reward."
I think it's backtracking, as you're going east from ICN after heading west to ICN. It could be possible but it definitely can't be booked online and would have to be done through the phone.
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Old May 28, 2014, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I think it's backtracking, as you're going east from ICN after heading west to ICN. It could be possible but it definitely can't be booked online and would have to be done through the phone.
Actually, I had to book flights going over Europe both ways (couldn't find what I needed for my dates the other way around), so I don't think it would be considered backtracking, no?
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Old May 28, 2014, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I think it's backtracking, as you're going east from ICN after heading west to ICN. It could be possible but it definitely can't be booked online and would have to be done through the phone.
Backtracking has nothing to do with geographic direction. It has everything to do with revisiting the same city twice.

I think this will depend on the agent. Technically, you are open-jawing your return to NRT. However, to do so, you are going through your point of origin. I feel this may be disallowed, but it may depend on the agent.

I would advise this, instead. I'm assuming you are planning to visit Japan "later", and so need to book ICN-NRT at some "later date". You will need to buy a return ticket with your own money, anyway. So why don't you do this instead. Book your ticket as ICN-YZV, YZV-NRT, then NRT-ICN "later". Separately, buy a NRT-ICN-NRT ticket with LifeMiles (or Avios or something) to depart on the same day as you land in NRT, so that you connect immediately (you will be able to automatically transfer your bags, too), and then your ICN-NRT segment will be sometime later in the future to connect to your Aeroplan NRT-ICN ticket. Not sure if you see what I mean here, but you're basically nesting two tickets inside one. This would definitely be legal and may cost you less in the long run.
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Old May 28, 2014, 10:48 am
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Backtracking has nothing to do with geographic direction. It has everything to do with revisiting the same city twice.
Darn!

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
I would advise this, instead. I'm assuming you are planning to visit Japan "later", and so need to book ICN-NRT at some "later date". You will need to buy a return ticket with your own money, anyway. So why don't you do this instead. Book your ticket as ICN-YZV, YZV-NRT, then NRT-ICN "later". Separately, buy a NRT-ICN-NRT ticket with LifeMiles (or Avios or something) to depart on the same day as you land in NRT, so that you connect immediately (you will be able to automatically transfer your bags, too), and then your ICN-NRT segment will be sometime later in the future to connect to your Aeroplan NRT-ICN ticket. Not sure if you see what I mean here, but you're basically nesting two tickets inside one. This would definitely be legal and may cost you less in the long run.
That's not really how I was hoping I could make it work , but I see your point. Thank you for the piece of advice!
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Old May 28, 2014, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Backtracking has nothing to do with geographic direction. It has everything to do with revisiting the same city twice.

I think this will depend on the agent. Technically, you are open-jawing your return to NRT. However, to do so, you are going through your point of origin. I feel this may be disallowed, but it may depend on the agent.

I would advise this, instead. I'm assuming you are planning to visit Japan "later", and so need to book ICN-NRT at some "later date". You will need to buy a return ticket with your own money, anyway. So why don't you do this instead. Book your ticket as ICN-YZV, YZV-NRT, then NRT-ICN "later". Separately, buy a NRT-ICN-NRT ticket with LifeMiles (or Avios or something) to depart on the same day as you land in NRT, so that you connect immediately (you will be able to automatically transfer your bags, too), and then your ICN-NRT segment will be sometime later in the future to connect to your Aeroplan NRT-ICN ticket. Not sure if you see what I mean here, but you're basically nesting two tickets inside one. This would definitely be legal and may cost you less in the long run.
I thought backtracking is going one direction then the other. Like YVR-FRA-JFK, or DXB-SYD-BKK.
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Old May 28, 2014, 11:52 pm
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No, it is transiting through an airport twice on one side of your point of turn. What you have described is disallowed on the basis of MPM.
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Old May 29, 2014, 1:07 am
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Consider Tokyo has two airports, HND and NRT, perhaps this helps?
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Old May 29, 2014, 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I thought backtracking is going one direction then the other. Like YVR-FRA-JFK, or DXB-SYD-BKK.
Originally Posted by lowside67
No, it is transiting through an airport twice on one side of your point of turn. What you have described is disallowed on the basis of MPM.
That's correct. YVR-FRA-JFK would be perfectly legal if it fit under MPM. Recall someone upthread doing something like YYZ-MUC-DXB-FRA-BKK-SYD (or even crazier than that).
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Old May 29, 2014, 12:36 pm
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Instead of starting at ICN, start at CJJ-PEK-whatever (it's the only international Star Alliance flight from there)

Then you won't be going through ICN as your point of origin is elsewhere.
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Old May 29, 2014, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Second option is to book a dummy return. Since your booking is barely opening, you could do something like Jul 1 for your outbound and Jul 2 for the return which you would later pay to adjust to a better date. This option has the benefit of allowing you to book stopovers as needed.
Going to use this option, I can add the stopovers later (like when I change the return date) by paying the fee correct? No need to book phantom stopover bookings at the same time?
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Old Jun 1, 2014, 3:37 pm
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Long time lurker first time poster. I wondered if the following is valid:

YUL-ZRH-VIE stop
VIE-IST - POT
IST-LHR stop
LHR-ZRH-YUL

Thanks

John
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Old Jun 1, 2014, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by yuljohn
Long time lurker first time poster. I wondered if the following is valid:

YUL-ZRH-VIE stop
VIE-IST - POT
IST-LHR stop
LHR-ZRH-YUL

Thanks

John
As simple as can be. perfectly fine and valid.
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