More upgrades to Executive Class for less this summer
Jun 20, 2011, 9:53 pm
#31
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
For me, the problem hasn't been the number of credits, it's been lack of R inventory. I'm 0 for 4 on upgrade attempts this year. Unless AC releases more R seats, the prospect of fewer credits is a sop.
In other words, I can not score an upgrade for 10 credits, or I can not score an upgrade for 6 credits. Which is better
In other words, I can not score an upgrade for 10 credits, or I can not score an upgrade for 6 credits. Which is better
Jun 20, 2011, 10:03 pm
#32
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YVR
Programs: Erstwhile Accidental AC E35K
Posts: 2,917
While that sucks, you have to realize that opening up more R in the situations you are describing would have resulted in a net reduction of revenue. It has been made clear that eUpgrades are supposed to clear ahead of all other 'optional' upgrades (LMU, non-deadhead crew, AE J on Y leg PAX, etc...). So if your upgrade didn't clear then the person in the seat is either a paying J PAX or an eUpgrade with more priority. As all of the non-rev space was already taken up by eUpgrades with more priority than you, opening up more R space would have cost them a paying PAX and that is exactly what Rev Mgmt is suppose to avoid.
Jun 20, 2011, 10:07 pm
#34
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YVR
Programs: Erstwhile Accidental AC E35K
Posts: 2,917
While that sucks, you have to realize that opening up more R in the situations you are describing would have resulted in a net reduction of revenue. It has been made clear that eUpgrades are supposed to clear ahead of all other 'optional' upgrades (LMU, non-deadhead crew, AE J on Y leg PAX, etc...). So if your upgrade didn't clear then the person in the seat is either a paying J PAX or an eUpgrade with more priority. As all of the non-rev space was already taken up by eUpgrades with more priority than you, opening up more R space would have cost them a paying PAX and that is exactly what Rev Mgmt is suppose to avoid.
Jun 20, 2011, 10:26 pm
#35
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
hehe. I love those ads and agree is feels like that some days. Though, I will admit that I've had every u/g request clear this year including 3 trans-cons, 2 TATL and a short-haul. I expect that will end in 10 days as my YYC-YYZ-YYT flights are both J2R0Y1 and that screams that I will be stuck in the back.
Jun 20, 2011, 10:29 pm
#36
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: YQR
Programs: no status
Posts: 1,053
On the other hand I have friend who is P, we may just do an MR to MIA or wherever and burn her upgrade credits, if some decent seat sales come along.
Jun 20, 2011, 11:46 pm
#37
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 771
Interesting. I am going YYC-YYZ-DCA in August. My flights show R9 and R5 respectively. So my chances are good to get an UG, although I know its early days and anything can change. It will be my first chance to use some of 45 ecredits burning a hole in my eUpgrade account.
I will be coming back in paid J from Atlanta so the credits will remain.
I will be coming back in paid J from Atlanta so the credits will remain.
Jun 21, 2011, 12:34 am
#38
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: YHZ,SAN
Programs: AC*SE
Posts: 336
So... am I reading this correctly in assuming that therefore Elite's could upgrade a flight on August 31st that flies out as late as September 4th (4 days later), and SuperElite's could upgrade a flight on August 31st that flies out as late as September 7th? I guess the only catch is that if only one segment of a flight is upgraded by August 31st, any upgrade of the second segment after August31st would likely recalculate the eupgrade cost of the entire flight at normal (nonpromo) rates...
Last edited by timriley12; Jun 21, 2011 at 1:16 am
Jun 21, 2011, 1:40 am
#39
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MAN
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,205
Any promotion has to have a start and end date.
Jun 21, 2011, 8:25 am
#41
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posts: 38,186
Wouldn't most Y and B fares be bought as part of a Latitude pass which get free upgrade already? Also you get first crack at R inventory is purchased more than 7-days out so that's the real benefit of such fares and upgrading.
Jun 21, 2011, 8:27 am
#42
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So... am I reading this correctly in assuming that therefore Elite's could upgrade a flight on August 31st that flies out as late as September 4th (4 days later), and SuperElite's could upgrade a flight on August 31st that flies out as late as September 7th? I guess the only catch is that if only one segment of a flight is upgraded by August 31st, any upgrade of the second segment after August31st would likely recalculate the eupgrade cost of the entire flight at normal (nonpromo) rates...
Jun 21, 2011, 8:41 am
#43
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE100K; *G
Posts: 1,526
Agreed. My point being that they're allowing a discounted credit upgrade starting on the 24th...but you can't request it until the 24th. With paper certs, I could have requested for the 24th at my 7 day window and would have still been able to take advantage of the promo.
Jun 21, 2011, 8:44 am
#44
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE100K; *G
Posts: 1,526
I suspect this is another AE/AC wording issue. The flights eligible for upgrading can be taken between those dates. However, actual upgrading at these discounted eCredits will be in place at one's upgrade window, so actually 7, 4 and 2 days in advance of the start date. Any flights after the end date will go through at the normal eCredit levels even if upgraded within the last days of the eligible flight dates.
Jun 21, 2011, 8:47 am
#45
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*SE MM, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 3,440
I suspect this is another AE/AC wording issue. The flights eligible for upgrading can be taken between those dates. However, actual upgrading at these discounted eCredits will be in place at one's upgrade window, so actually 7, 4 and 2 days in advance of the start date. Any flights after the end date will go through at the normal eCredit levels even if upgraded within the last days of the eligible flight dates.
_My_ speculation is that timriley12's interpretation is correct and for SEs the 'sale' will be valid for flights up to the 7th as long as the request is made by the 31st. I think it's just a "feature" of the eUpgrade system and they really don't have a choice.