Perfect Airline — 5. Inflight: Business Domestic/Transborder
#1
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
Perfect Airline — 5. Inflight: Business Domestic/Transborder
The time has come to put the challenge to Air Canada’s management team who have pledged that their merger with Canadian Airlines will result in the creation of the world’s best airline. We’re the ones they have to satisfy, so we should also be the ones to help define what our expectations are for the “ideal” service an airline should provide in the many facets of its operations. It goes without saying that we want schedules with frequent departures and easy connections (when non-stops or direct flights are not possible). We want safety to be a paramount concern. But it is with those myriad of other details we can give advice. Notes are provided under each of the seven headings as guidelines, but don’t be limited by them as long as your comments fit the theme of the forum. Things like perks and benefits for elites will often find their way into all the forums, but most Aeroplan/CanadianPlus program issues are dealt with in the Awards Redemption forum.
Feel free to contribute your thoughts throughout the month of May. I will then tabulate each of the forums and prepare a consolidated report that can be posted or downloaded in mid-June for review by FlyerTalkers. Those who agree with the final version of this report -- revisions will undoubtedly occur throughout June -- will be invited to “sign” it, and during the FlyerTalk gathering in Montreal (July 21st to 23rd), those of us attending will arrange to deliver it to a member of Air Canada’s senior management team.
For ease of participation, all forums will appear in the Air Canada strand. A single forum will be posted in the Canadian strand to refer people to this AC strand to ensure as full participation as possible by those FlyerTalkers (from around the world) who fly either of our fine carriers.
5. Inflight: Business Domestic/Transborder
Basic expected service standards and amenities (i.e. seats, pre-flight drink, newspapers and magazines, in flight entertainment, meal/snack service, bar/drink service...)
Feel free to contribute your thoughts throughout the month of May. I will then tabulate each of the forums and prepare a consolidated report that can be posted or downloaded in mid-June for review by FlyerTalkers. Those who agree with the final version of this report -- revisions will undoubtedly occur throughout June -- will be invited to “sign” it, and during the FlyerTalk gathering in Montreal (July 21st to 23rd), those of us attending will arrange to deliver it to a member of Air Canada’s senior management team.
For ease of participation, all forums will appear in the Air Canada strand. A single forum will be posted in the Canadian strand to refer people to this AC strand to ensure as full participation as possible by those FlyerTalkers (from around the world) who fly either of our fine carriers.
5. Inflight: Business Domestic/Transborder
Basic expected service standards and amenities (i.e. seats, pre-flight drink, newspapers and magazines, in flight entertainment, meal/snack service, bar/drink service...)
#2
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, SPG; IC Pl/A; AA; DL
Posts: 14,324
Inflight: Business Domestic/Transborder
48" seat pitch
pre-flight drink
national and local newspapers
international and regional magazines
in flight entertainment on all flights over 1 hour; movie on flights over 3 hours.
meal/snack service on all flights over 1 hour--hot meal
bar/drink service -- free drinks
48" seat pitch
pre-flight drink
national and local newspapers
international and regional magazines
in flight entertainment on all flights over 1 hour; movie on flights over 3 hours.
meal/snack service on all flights over 1 hour--hot meal
bar/drink service -- free drinks
#3
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,352
Seats -- A319/320 -- 42-45 inches (more legroom for aircrafts that are designated for transcon travels)
-- Boeing 767s -- 45-50 inches with legrest.
Pre-flight drinks -- water or juice
Newspapers -- US and Canadian (French newspapers for Montreal or other Quebec cities; Chinese newspapers for YYZ and YVR)
Magazines -- Same
Inflight entertainment -- the present system is nice, especially the news on short transborder flights. Clean headsets are always good.
Meals/ Snacks -- is very bad now. For flights shorter than 1 hours, a quick cold plate during meal times are sufficient. For flights between 1 and 3 hours, there needs to be a hot dish. For flights longer than 3 hours, a four-course dinner with trolley service should be offered (like international). An appetizer and salad, then a separte entree course, followed by dessert (cheese will be nice, too). For morning transcon flights, a light snack of cheese and fruit plate an hour before landing will be good. The casserole dish used by AC now is awfully looking. Please change into more contemporary cultery and meal tray. It is just ugly now...
Free alocohol beverages.
-- Boeing 767s -- 45-50 inches with legrest.
Pre-flight drinks -- water or juice
Newspapers -- US and Canadian (French newspapers for Montreal or other Quebec cities; Chinese newspapers for YYZ and YVR)
Magazines -- Same
Inflight entertainment -- the present system is nice, especially the news on short transborder flights. Clean headsets are always good.
Meals/ Snacks -- is very bad now. For flights shorter than 1 hours, a quick cold plate during meal times are sufficient. For flights between 1 and 3 hours, there needs to be a hot dish. For flights longer than 3 hours, a four-course dinner with trolley service should be offered (like international). An appetizer and salad, then a separte entree course, followed by dessert (cheese will be nice, too). For morning transcon flights, a light snack of cheese and fruit plate an hour before landing will be good. The casserole dish used by AC now is awfully looking. Please change into more contemporary cultery and meal tray. It is just ugly now...
Free alocohol beverages.
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 20,550
I have noticed that the seats in J class especially on the 320 are getting old. The padding is getting flat in the bottom of the seat and the footrest is not comfortable. It is time for third line maintenance on the 320 J class...
#6
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Programs: BA GGL, FPC Plat, HH Diamond, IHG Amb
Posts: 3,372
Upgrade the domestic 767's to seats comparable with Executive First.
I hate flying YYZ YVR and trying to figure out which flights have the better seats.
I hate flying YYZ YVR and trying to figure out which flights have the better seats.