YYZ - HKG
May 3, 2000, 10:21 pm
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YYZ - HKG
PLEASE NOTE THIS THREAD WAS STARTED IN MAY 2000..... 11 years ago and now dragged up. NOT new info.
I belive this route started May 1...
As far as I remember, they claim that it is nonstop from HKG - YYZ. However, checking the flight status for today and yesterday, AC 10 made a stop in YVR for an hour before continuing onto YYZ.
Did I remember something wrong...?
I belive this route started May 1...
As far as I remember, they claim that it is nonstop from HKG - YYZ. However, checking the flight status for today and yesterday, AC 10 made a stop in YVR for an hour before continuing onto YYZ.
Did I remember something wrong...?
Last edited by Andrew Yiu; Jun 2, 2011 at 4:38 am
May 3, 2000, 11:20 pm
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Further support:
From Feburary 9, 2000's press release:
From May 1, 2000's press release:
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From Feburary 9, 2000's press release:
...There will also be new or additional flying on selected international routes. New routes include daily service between Toronto-Hong Kong (via Vancouver westbound and non stop eastbound), Toronto-Honolulu-Sydney, Toronto-Munich and Vancouver-Mexico City. Some international markets will see the addition of new frequencies to provide daily service on routes such as from Toronto to Copenhagen, Milan and Tokyo and from Vancouver to Seoul...
AIR CANADA INAUGURATES DAILY DIRECT SERVICE BETWEEN TORONTO AND HONG KONG
TORONTO, May 1, 2000 - Air Canada inaugurated today daily direct service between Toronto and Hong Kong when flight AC009 left Lester B. Pearson International Airport at 2215 en route to Hong Kong via Vancouver. With the introduction of the new service, Air Canada and Canadian Airlines now offer 14 flights per week between Canada and Hong Kong, including daily service from Toronto and Vancouver.
"With this new service, we are further strengthening our presence in the Hong Kong travel market which we now serve on a daily basis from our two main hubs in Canada," said Peter Wilson, General Manager, Passenger Sales - Ontario, during an inaugural flight ceremony at Pearson International Airport today. "We are pleased to build on our current schedule between Canada and Hong Kong to provide a fast, reliable and convenient service which will be a catalyst for more trade, travel and tourism."
Flights on the new route are operated with Air Canada’s 284-seat A340 aircraft featuring the airline’s acclaimed Executive First and Hospitality service. Customers are able to enjoy multi-lingual in-flight entertainment program in English, French, Cantonese and Mandarin.
Air Canada flight AC009 leaves Toronto at 2215 and arrives in Hong Kong via Vancouver at 0625 two days later (due to time difference). From Hong Kong, AC010 leaves at 1300 and arrives in Toronto via Vancouver at 1815 the same day.
With a convenient evening departure from Toronto, Air Canada’s schedule is designed to offer connections from most Eastern Canada and key Eastern U.S. points. Early morning arrival in Hong Kong provides convenient same-day connections to primary Asian destinations such as Singapore and Bangkok.
To promote the new service, Air Canada is offering double bonus miles when travelling round trip for the first time on the new route between May 1st and August 31, 2000.
TORONTO, May 1, 2000 - Air Canada inaugurated today daily direct service between Toronto and Hong Kong when flight AC009 left Lester B. Pearson International Airport at 2215 en route to Hong Kong via Vancouver. With the introduction of the new service, Air Canada and Canadian Airlines now offer 14 flights per week between Canada and Hong Kong, including daily service from Toronto and Vancouver.
"With this new service, we are further strengthening our presence in the Hong Kong travel market which we now serve on a daily basis from our two main hubs in Canada," said Peter Wilson, General Manager, Passenger Sales - Ontario, during an inaugural flight ceremony at Pearson International Airport today. "We are pleased to build on our current schedule between Canada and Hong Kong to provide a fast, reliable and convenient service which will be a catalyst for more trade, travel and tourism."
Flights on the new route are operated with Air Canada’s 284-seat A340 aircraft featuring the airline’s acclaimed Executive First and Hospitality service. Customers are able to enjoy multi-lingual in-flight entertainment program in English, French, Cantonese and Mandarin.
Air Canada flight AC009 leaves Toronto at 2215 and arrives in Hong Kong via Vancouver at 0625 two days later (due to time difference). From Hong Kong, AC010 leaves at 1300 and arrives in Toronto via Vancouver at 1815 the same day.
With a convenient evening departure from Toronto, Air Canada’s schedule is designed to offer connections from most Eastern Canada and key Eastern U.S. points. Early morning arrival in Hong Kong provides convenient same-day connections to primary Asian destinations such as Singapore and Bangkok.
To promote the new service, Air Canada is offering double bonus miles when travelling round trip for the first time on the new route between May 1st and August 31, 2000.
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Last edited by Andrew Yiu; Jun 2, 2011 at 5:04 am
May 3, 2000, 11:51 pm
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Hi,
Just checked with AC here in HKG - I'm due to fly this in a couple of weeks - er...yes, it is (or will be non-stop) but for the remainder of May anyway, they'll make a 55 min stop in YVR for a crew change. I gather it's obviously something to do with crew hours - they said by end May/beg. June it would probably be non-stop...
Angus
Just checked with AC here in HKG - I'm due to fly this in a couple of weeks - er...yes, it is (or will be non-stop) but for the remainder of May anyway, they'll make a 55 min stop in YVR for a crew change. I gather it's obviously something to do with crew hours - they said by end May/beg. June it would probably be non-stop...
Angus
May 4, 2000, 12:06 am
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May 4, 2000, 6:50 am
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IMO, it all depends on what they tell you at time of booking. If they say that there will be a 55 minute layover on that flight, and adjust arrival times accordingly, then there is no problem. You as passanger accept that when you buy your ticket. However, if they say it is non-stop, tell you when you book that it is non-stop, and then plan a stop, then that is unacceptable.
May 4, 2000, 7:00 am
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It is likely due to the change in the prevailing winds making the flight too long.
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May 4, 2000, 7:42 am
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Oh come on Empress, will you lighten up and say something positive, for once.
If you have to put a stop in a long-haul flight like HKG - YYZ for operational reasons it is not the end of the world.
In summer, an A340 can do HKGYYZ (and it looks like it will), but you cannot do it in winter. CX have had exactly the same experience, and have run their flights the same way (except through ANC).
If Airbus can drop the extra 6,000 kg from the -500's then AC will be able to run this nonstop in both directions.
If you have to put a stop in a long-haul flight like HKG - YYZ for operational reasons it is not the end of the world.
In summer, an A340 can do HKGYYZ (and it looks like it will), but you cannot do it in winter. CX have had exactly the same experience, and have run their flights the same way (except through ANC).
If Airbus can drop the extra 6,000 kg from the -500's then AC will be able to run this nonstop in both directions.
May 4, 2000, 9:23 am
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Just a thought- how much will hte new polar routes help this once they are approved?
May 4, 2000, 10:08 am
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The polar routes will make a big differance.
But AC*SE you are right CX has always operated the YYZ-HKG route non-stop with a crew change in ANC.
CX has been known to fly without a stop in ANC but there is usually a weight restriction placed on the flight.
May 4, 2000, 11:47 am
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May 4, 2000, 12:53 pm
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Empress, of course there are problems. No one can amalgamate two diverse operations and expect everything to run smoothly from day 1.
If anything, I would say that Milton is admitting that there are problems and he is committing the company to fixing them.
There still may be things we don't like, but we don't gain anything by coming in with the attitude that the merged company is nothing but a load of broken promises.
Let's confine our complaints to things that are relevant, that are significant, and that the company can fix or should have prevented.
If anything, I would say that Milton is admitting that there are problems and he is committing the company to fixing them.
There still may be things we don't like, but we don't gain anything by coming in with the attitude that the merged company is nothing but a load of broken promises.
Let's confine our complaints to things that are relevant, that are significant, and that the company can fix or should have prevented.
May 4, 2000, 5:58 pm
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There was no provision, under the current Air Canada flight attendant contract, pertaining to a single flight leg of 16 hours. An agreement was negotiated between the two parties and was being voted on at the end of April. It would be unreasonable to expect a single crew to be on duty inexcess of 17 hours without specific parameters governing rest etc. In addition, current aircraft are stretched to their range limit on this route, hence the YVR stop westbound. Depending on the winds on the day of operation, some eastbound flights may have to make a tech stop. Hope this helps.
There was no provision, under the current Air Canada flight attendant contract, pertaining to a single flight leg of 16 hours. An agreement was negotiated between the two parties and was being voted on at the end of April. It would be unreasonable to expect a single crew to be on duty inexcess of 17 hours without specific parameters governing rest etc. In addition, current aircraft are stretched to their range limit on this route, hence the YVR stop westbound. Depending on the winds on the day of operation, some eastbound flights may have to make a tech stop. Hope this helps.
Jun 3, 2011, 3:34 pm
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