TP booking numbers, but Air Portugalia metal - will I get Miles + Bonus TPs?
#1
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TP booking numbers, but Air Portugalia metal - will I get Miles + Bonus TPs?
I have booked a RT Exec class (LIS-MAN) with TAP flight numbers. However, I just noticed the E190 Flights are with Air Portugalia. The Exec booking classes are Z and J.
Since the flights are on Air Portugalia metal, would I still get the 200% TP and miles from a "normal" TAP flight (ie on TAP metal) applied to my A3 Miles + Bonus account?
Since the flights are on Air Portugalia metal, would I still get the 200% TP and miles from a "normal" TAP flight (ie on TAP metal) applied to my A3 Miles + Bonus account?
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I do not have any direct experience, however I would guestimate yes. TP 1313 is operated by Air Portugalia, while TP 1363 is operated by TAP themselves (LHR-LIS). This makes me believe that this is not some kind of special charter or codeshare flight (Typically those would use different flight number ranges). Most likely its a wetlease which should then earn with M+B.
However if somebody has actual experience flying TP operated by Air Portugalia that would be better. You may also want to search other *A programme subforums (e.g. Miles & More) to see if there are any reports of these earning or not. If they earn for other programmes they will likely also for M+B.
However if somebody has actual experience flying TP operated by Air Portugalia that would be better. You may also want to search other *A programme subforums (e.g. Miles & More) to see if there are any reports of these earning or not. If they earn for other programmes they will likely also for M+B.
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Portugalia is the regional subsidiary of TAP operating flights as TAP Express and occupies a position analogous to that of LH's Cityline subsidiary.
For earning purposes it is treated the same as TAP
For earning purposes it is treated the same as TAP
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It seems TAP has become deceitful. My two (upgraded) booking classes clearly show C class - which when put into the A3 miles and bonus system would give me a lot of TPs. However, it seems TAP sent erronious/false info to A3. My two flights were allocated P class, which gave me less than 500 TPs each.
i have complained to TAP on their site and it is still "under analysis". In addition, I have complained on the official Portugal government "livros des reclamaes" site about the deceitful nature of TAP, regarding booking classes. I included scans of both boarding passes (clearly showing booking classes C) and a screenshot of my A3 Miles&Bonus account showing booking classes P with only 490 TPs allocated for each flight.
I upgraded specifically to get TPs to help maintain my A3 *G status. Now I wait TAP's proper class (and TP) allocation. Unfortunately, I am not holding my breath with TAP. They seem to have become two-faced and deceitful lately - as compared to past experiences.
i have complained to TAP on their site and it is still "under analysis". In addition, I have complained on the official Portugal government "livros des reclamaes" site about the deceitful nature of TAP, regarding booking classes. I included scans of both boarding passes (clearly showing booking classes C) and a screenshot of my A3 Miles&Bonus account showing booking classes P with only 490 TPs allocated for each flight.
I upgraded specifically to get TPs to help maintain my A3 *G status. Now I wait TAP's proper class (and TP) allocation. Unfortunately, I am not holding my breath with TAP. They seem to have become two-faced and deceitful lately - as compared to past experiences.
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It seems TAP has become deceitful. My two (upgraded) booking classes clearly show C class - which when put into the A3 miles and bonus system would give me a lot of TPs. However, it seems TAP sent erronious/false info to A3. My two flights were allocated P class, which gave me less than 500 TPs each.
On TAP, it is not the "class" that counts, but the Fare Family. TAP uses the following fare families: Discount, Classic, Basic, Plus, Executive, Top Executive. It is not the "fare class" that dictates what you earn, and most fare classes can be issued in most of these fare families.
The end result is, of course, that you never know exactly what you will earn in other *A programs, who still show an old-style class-based earning table. Some behind-the-scenes mapping is performed to "convert" the TAP ticket you had (for which "C" is effectively meaningless) into a new earning code.
The regulars here have learned not to rely on TAP if you're looking for a specific Tier Mile amount to nail down (re-)qualification.
Earning rates on TAP
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it's a P booking class code, this topic has been discussed here on forum several times.... next time read forum before buy the TAP upgrade (until the earning chart is updated). Unfortunately I think there is nothing you can do from my point of view