Feb 23, 2015, 6:35 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
With the evolution of the Miles&Bonus program, there are a number of threads on this forum that contain outdated information, plus a further set that - whilst describing the new program - contain conflicting information that has only been crystallised as we all discover how certain aspects of the program either work or are interpreted.
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
Flame-Free Questions on A3 - ask your newbie (and not so newbie) questions here
May 16, 2022, 9:03 pm
#2627
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506
Two questions to the experts:
- I earned a gold tier extension on 25/11/2019 (until 25/11/2020); In Mar 2021 I got another extension, and now my gold status expires May 2022
- I have just started to travel for work in Apr 2022, so I am starting the mile accumulation (I just did one transatlantic roundtrip). Is there a way to get an extension until Nov 2022 to accumulate the miles
- The issue I see is that since my current gold status expires May 2022, my miles eligibility counter will reset in May 2022, in a sense "losing" all the eligibility miles I accumulate until May 2022
Also, if you can fit in 4 Aegean sectors, those sectors plus your transatlantic return trip should deliver the required 9k status miles, no?
May 17, 2022, 3:57 am
#2628
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, A3 Gold, IHG Diamond, MR Gold, HH Diamond, ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,044
Hi everyone,
After several years preferring ST and OW to *A, we are going to start travelling again with *A airlines, and in this regard, A3 Miles and Bonus program seems to be a good one to gain status relatively quickly !
But I have a question regarding codeshare credits. I understand that in *A, the operating carrier defines how many (tier) miles you get. I am also aware that P fares on LH earn nothing, unlike P fares on LX or OS.
My question is : We have an upcoming trip between AMS and YYZ, booked on LH in P class, but operated by AC (sold as LH6842). Likewise, the return is a flight between YYZ and VIE, booked as OS8248 in P-class, but operated by Air Canada.
Am I correct in thinking that LH P (or OS P) maps to AC P-class ? And that therefore I will get 200% of the miles on those segments on A3 FFP ?
I do have subsequent flights booked in P or Z on the same booking marketed AND operated by Air Canada (but ticket issued on LH 220- stock). That would also yield 200% A3 miles right ?
Thanks for your help in advance !
After several years preferring ST and OW to *A, we are going to start travelling again with *A airlines, and in this regard, A3 Miles and Bonus program seems to be a good one to gain status relatively quickly !
But I have a question regarding codeshare credits. I understand that in *A, the operating carrier defines how many (tier) miles you get. I am also aware that P fares on LH earn nothing, unlike P fares on LX or OS.
My question is : We have an upcoming trip between AMS and YYZ, booked on LH in P class, but operated by AC (sold as LH6842). Likewise, the return is a flight between YYZ and VIE, booked as OS8248 in P-class, but operated by Air Canada.
Am I correct in thinking that LH P (or OS P) maps to AC P-class ? And that therefore I will get 200% of the miles on those segments on A3 FFP ?
I do have subsequent flights booked in P or Z on the same booking marketed AND operated by Air Canada (but ticket issued on LH 220- stock). That would also yield 200% A3 miles right ?
Thanks for your help in advance !
May 17, 2022, 4:45 am
#2629
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 81
[edit] For future reference, can you please clarify what you mean by 'fit 4 aegean sectors'? Do you mean actually booking and flying 4x aegean flights? How much do these cost?
[edit 2] Made a mistake while calculating tier miles. On the ticket, the flight says Brussels Airlines but operated by Air Canada. So my tier miles reduced to ~7000 miles because of this. I will still have ~750 tier miles to keep GOLD :-(.
Last edited by sociableorg; May 17, 2022 at 4:50 am
May 17, 2022, 4:59 am
#2630
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
Looks like I need ~7750 tier miles to keep Gold. I just checked the miles calculator and looks like the transatlantic trip should get me over the tier miles (with the fare class I have, I get ~1.25 boost, so total tier miles is ~10K). Thanks for your feedback.
[edit] For future reference, can you please clarify what you mean by 'fit 4 aegean sectors'? Do you mean actually booking and flying 4x aegean flights? How much do these cost?
[edit 2] Made a mistake while calculating tier miles. On the ticket, the flight says Brussels Airlines but operated by Air Canada. So my tier miles reduced to ~7000 miles because of this. I will still have ~750 tier miles to keep GOLD :-(.
[edit] For future reference, can you please clarify what you mean by 'fit 4 aegean sectors'? Do you mean actually booking and flying 4x aegean flights? How much do these cost?
[edit 2] Made a mistake while calculating tier miles. On the ticket, the flight says Brussels Airlines but operated by Air Canada. So my tier miles reduced to ~7000 miles because of this. I will still have ~750 tier miles to keep GOLD :-(.
If you need 750 miles you can buy tier miles. Unfortunately it's only in 500-mile increments so you'd need to buy 1000 at a cost of 75 EUR. Since you are keeping Gold rather than going from Silver, those excess 250 tier miles will be wasted.
May 17, 2022, 7:23 am
#2632
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: LHR, ATH, OSL, LYR
Programs: Aegean Miles & Bonus Gold, SAS Eurobonus Silver
Posts: 19
tony2022 Unfortunately many phone agents are rookies when it comes to actual experience with Aegean's ffp, policies and most stuff in general. Removing your member's ID from the reservation or even not entering it at all when booking does nothing special for you when retro-crediting. You will still get the award miles, but the date of the flight counts for the tier miles, so what you heard the 2nd time is true. If what the 1st agent said was true, that would lead to a huge loophole, which would allow customers to seriously manipulate the ffp by such retro-crediting.
May 17, 2022, 7:35 am
#2633
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506
Star Alliance generally goes by operating carrier (or their sidekicks). There are excemptions on the fringes, but in almost all cases you will earn miles according to the Brussels table if you fly on a plane operated by Brusels - whether you buy it under an Air Canada code or, a Brussels code, or an Aegean code does not matter. (Disclaimer: I'm not sure what happens if the marketing carrier is not a Star Alliance carrier, such as Air France coded Austrian flights. But that's not your situation.)
May 17, 2022, 7:41 am
#2634
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CHA
Posts: 151
May 17, 2022, 10:50 am
#2635
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
May 17, 2022, 12:50 pm
#2636
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,670
When you renew Silver, do the upgrade coupons become available immediately, or does this happen at the end of the qualification year?
And when you upgrade to Gold from Silver, does it reset you year at that day and you get the new coupons right then?
And when you upgrade to Gold from Silver, does it reset you year at that day and you get the new coupons right then?
May 17, 2022, 1:56 pm
#2637
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: BRU
Programs: A3 *G & FB G
Posts: 640
2) Yes it does reset that day and you get the new coupons right then.
May 17, 2022, 3:35 pm
#2638
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 81
Star Alliance generally goes by operating carrier (or their sidekicks). There are excemptions on the fringes, but in almost all cases you will earn miles according to the Brussels table if you fly on a plane operated by Brusels - whether you buy it under an Air Canada code or, a Brussels code, or an Aegean code does not matter. (Disclaimer: I'm not sure what happens if the marketing carrier is not a Star Alliance carrier, such as Air France coded Austrian flights. But that's not your situation.)
May 18, 2022, 4:17 am
#2639
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 81
Be cautious of the earnings, you mentioned the carrier is Air Canada. There's a current M&B discussion about AC's fare classes vs fare "type." Basically regardless of the fare class letter, earnings are dependent on the fare "type." AC can sell a ticket with a fare letter that usually means 'lots of miles & tier points' but use the Basic Economy fare type, and you will only earn at the Basic Economy rate. Check regularly to see what posts...buying some tier points may become more attractive. Or taking a weekend hop from Brussels to Greece.
Thanks. I will look at the AC fare type now and also see what posts. Will report back. Indeed, I might have to buy some tier miles to “top up” to gold eligibility.
May 18, 2022, 5:50 am
#2640
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506