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Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old Jun 4, 2019, 9:36 am
  #1906  
 
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Originally Posted by greenarmy
The online award booking tool still offers routings that are way over the 125% referred to in the previous post. For example, searching Hong Kong to Toyko will show routings via Singapore (around 2.5x direct)
Is this 125% real or an urban myth? Yeah - I can see that there must/should/might be some limit, but I've asked before and never had reference to the actual "rule" that states this. Isn't it more likely that there is a soft limit that varies between airline/ffp program/region/booking class or even specific route?
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Old Jun 4, 2019, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Knobbgb
Is this 125% real or an urban myth? Yeah - I can see that there must/should/might be some limit, but I've asked before and never had reference to the actual "rule" that states this. Isn't it more likely that there is a soft limit that varies between airline/ffp program/region/booking class or even specific route?

25M (125% of MPM) is a standard value published by IATA. You can find these values in GDS or ExpertFlyer/KVS.

For example, on DEL-ICN:
DEL YY SEL /16JUL19
************************************************** ***********

CTY GI TPM CUM MPM EMS DED LAST NEXT 25M

DEL 3
1. SEL 3 EH 2900 2900 3480 0M 0 0 580 4350


The direct distance is 2896 miles, the MPM is 3480 miles, and 25M is 4350 miles.

In general, for MPM-based revenue fares, routings are permitted as long as they don't exceed 25M, but there is often a fare surcharge for exceeding MPM. For award tickets, depending on issuing carrier and award type, routing rules may be MPM based or not.
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Old Jun 4, 2019, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by Knobbgb
Is this 125% real or an urban myth? Yeah - I can see that there must/should/might be some limit, but I've asked before and never had reference to the actual "rule" that states this. Isn't it more likely that there is a soft limit that varies between airline/ffp program/region/booking class or even specific route?
Given that the booking tool breaks the 125 limit, that strongly suggests it cannot be the rule for Aegean.

Some other FFPs do follow 125% as a rule, such as AAdvantage, which could start a belief that it is industry wide.

As for what Aegean's booking tool's full and specific rules are, or what can be permissibly constructed by a phone agent, I cannot say as I am merely a heavily interested amateur and not an insider with that kind of knowledge.

What I can say is that the published terms+conditions for mileage redemption does not indicate that they have any MPM constraint on routings of award tickets, only that you are limited to one stopover of less than 24hrs in the routing.
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Old Jun 5, 2019, 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by GBobon
So, I insisted 3 times and the 3rd agent was very knowledgeable and she talked with the ticketing department and downgraded the reservation from O to I. Now she said that the ticket will be reissued and the difference ok 15K miles will be credited in my account in the coming days. During this move, the original seats from F cabin were kept
weeks later... my confirmed reservation is still not reticketed and the miles will be credited back on my account only after they reissue the ticket.
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Old Jun 13, 2019, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by GBobon
weeks later... my confirmed reservation is still not reticketed and the miles will be credited back on my account only after they reissue the ticket.
finally my downgraded reservation in J was reticketed... cant believe it took them so long. Good part is that the difference of 15k miles was credited back to my account instant.

Just booked: SFO - LIS - VIE with TAP A330neo + TAP A321 in J for 45k miles + 17eur in fees.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 1:35 pm
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75000 miles plus 150 EUR for FRA - HND in F with ANA. Done online, smooth and efficient.
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Old Jun 22, 2019, 11:08 am
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Do Aegean Rewards allow stopover/openjaw? I would be booking a Y-Class inter-asia flight.
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Old Jun 22, 2019, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by mithellflies
Do Aegean Rewards allow stopover/openjaw? I would be booking a Y-Class inter-asia flight.
No stop-overs allowed, but they allow layover.
Yes, openjaw is allowed.
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Old Jun 23, 2019, 10:08 pm
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Just booked C DPS-TPE-HAN for 21k and 53euro on BR. Not the shortest routing but compared to $$$ prices from DPS to HAN it made a lot of sense!
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Old Jun 24, 2019, 2:28 am
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SQ SUB/SIN/HKG C class. 21K, only EUR18 tax!
Normal C fare is EUR1500!
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Old Jun 24, 2019, 11:07 pm
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 1:01 am
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Thanks for the alert. Booked a reverse trip, lower taxes. might drop the other leg.

check other routes, seems still not available in J. Maybe because of aircraft change starts from July, someone forgot to block J from partners.

Last edited by freed0m; Jun 25, 2019 at 6:30 am
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 5:18 am
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ARN=EWR on SK, 45K + 54EUR

Haven't had any luck finding any J seats from US-Scandinavia on SK though...
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Old Jul 13, 2019, 5:46 am
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Just theoretically, I am not sure if ANA make some award space for partners on A380 HNL-TYO but if so it might be good opportunity to get to or from Europe for 60k in F on ANA. But does anybody know if HNL flight has even space even long time ahead? Cant check as I am under 60k in A3 now.
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Old Jul 13, 2019, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
Just theoretically, I am not sure if ANA make some award space for partners on A380 HNL-TYO but if so it might be good opportunity to get to or from Europe for 60k in F on ANA. But does anybody know if HNL flight has even space even long time ahead? Cant check as I am under 60k in A3 now.
Europe-Hawaii is 100K in F one-way.
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