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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Jun 23, 2011, 10:02 pm
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J or F awards

Does anyone have an estimate of what a J or F award ticket from North America to Europe would cost? What about a RTW?
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
Does anyone have an estimate of what a J or F award ticket from North America to Europe would cost? What about a RTW?
Most of the info is on their website....

http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonu...n/spend-miles/

No idea about a RTW, you can always go on www.staralliance.com to calculate an estimate of a RTW ticket with all *A partners.
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
Does anyone have an estimate of what a J or F award ticket from North America to Europe would cost? What about a RTW?
I reckon it'll be similar to the costs M&M charges (if it is possible with A3 at all):
Fly round the world with your miles. The Star Alliance Round the World Flight Award makes it possible to fly the whole way round the globe.
Class of service Miles
Economy 180,000 miles
Business 325,000 miles
First Class 480,000 miles
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 4:45 pm
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Are there any good values on the A3 redemption chart? North America to Europe AND NORTH AFRICA seems to be good deal in C and F Anything else?
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Old Jun 25, 2011, 9:32 am
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How about YQ/fuel surcharge on A3 redemptions? I read the T&C but didn't find any clear statement.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 7:49 am
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J and F awards

I just checked the redemption chart. Flight from north America to Europe ate 90,000 in J, and 120,000 in F. Not bad, seeing as I used 100,000 miles plus $643 in fees for a J ticket on BA.
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by bl540611
Are there any good values on the A3 redemption chart? North America to Europe AND NORTH AFRICA seems to be good deal in C and F Anything else?
Canada/US to Mexico or the Caribbean for 25K in Y and 42.5K in J is a pretty good deal! (I haven't tried booking it, but according to their definition of "North America" that seems to be the rate). That compares to needing 40K/60K to book through Aeroplan (AC).

What I'm curious about is if you book an Air Canada flight using A3 miles, do they pass on the fuel surcharge as Aeroplan would.
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970
Canada/US to Mexico or the Caribbean for 25K in Y and 42.5K in J is a pretty good deal! (I haven't tried booking it, but according to their definition of "North America" that seems to be the rate). That compares to needing 40K/60K to book through Aeroplan (AC).

What I'm curious about is if you book an Air Canada flight using A3 miles, do they pass on the fuel surcharge as Aeroplan would.
no
YQ is dependent on the ticketing carrier.

That said, A3 can charge whatever YQ they want on the ticket, it just has nothing to do with AC's YQ
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Old Aug 29, 2011, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by hansetang81
comparing to CO onepass, aegean allows one stopover in each way while CO only allows one in all. but seems like Aegean charges expensive YQ surcharge, which CO does not.
hansetang81, did you find out how much A3 charges for fuel surcharge for award tickets? You seem to have discovered something..
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Old Sep 1, 2011, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by eriond
Intra Far East redemptions are only 42k for a RT in C.

For example, SIN-HND, 21k miles each way for a 7 hour flight in C is worth it IMO.
Where do you find these intra far east miles redemption charts? Can't seem to find them on A3's website...


**EDIT** oops sorry, found it
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Old Sep 5, 2011, 10:58 pm
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The point that you cannot change a redemption booking and when cancelled only get back 50% of the miles is a clause / rule that will prevent lot's of people to continue crediting more miles than needed just for *G status. I find this highly restrictive rule quite silly and A3 should rather consider slapping a nice processing fee for themselves onto such transactions and allow changes before deprature as well as cancellation with full mileage refund.

Peoples' plans do change so to mee A3 miles are best used for short term notice trips where you are able to still find availability. Meaning I secure a trip using another FFP's miles where I can cancel against a fee and then try a few days before my now more certain departure to get the desired routing (not necessarily the same flight) using my A3 miles to avoid cancellation penalty. Given that in particular premium seats are sometimes released close to departure (within 2-7 days) this could work in a few cases, but make it a pain if you got large stacks of A3 miles that you want to burn.
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Old Sep 5, 2011, 11:05 pm
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Just a little update on these FFT number changing at the gate.

It did not work for me. I made the booking and checked-in using my A3 *G status and asked the agent at the gate to change it to SQ. Which she did and said it was all good.

But the miles still got credited to my A3 account. No harm done but that's still 6000+ miles in the "wrong" account

For info, it was a ZRH-SIN flight on SQ.
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Old Sep 6, 2011, 5:46 am
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90K is US to North Africa too which is a great deal.
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Old Sep 6, 2011, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
90K is US to North Africa too which is a great deal.
Is CAI considered North Africa or Middle East?

If it's North Africa, then flying to CAI and continuing on using MS' routes could be a great deal.
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Old Sep 7, 2011, 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Is CAI considered North Africa or Middle East?...
Your question reminds me of the WHO! For their administrative purposes, the Mediterranean extends to...Afghanistan but Greece is't part of it! Also, Algeria is Africa but Somalia isn't... I know, I'm not being helpful, just sarcastic, sorry
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