Originally Posted by
Inthewind
My point exactly...it's disgusting to me with everything else going on in the world today that you think being detained for 25 minutes is a civil liberty injustice.
What is going on the world that is, in any way, effected by this policy?
Why don't we let everyone fly without ID so even the terrorists can have their privacy! Free movement and association? Are you kidding me?
Exactly what do you think is accomplished by demanding ID? Do you Osama bin Laden would show a driver's license from Afghanistan: "bin Laden, Osama. Height: 5-11. Weight: 180 Hair: Grey with long beard. Address: Deep hole in the third mountain to the right, Afghan/Pakistan border.
You are aware, are you not, that the
real terrorists are not included on the No Fly List for reasons of "national security"?
This is coming from someone who's probably never had to pay for the freedom you seem to think is free.
And, unfortunately, this is coming from someone who doesn't understand either the basis for freedom in the United States or the extent to which TSA and DHS are completely ineffectual in protecting it.
You know what has me so worked up about this post? It's that most of you complaining about being inconvenienced...having to wait a few extra minutes to get to your first class seat so you can get a free drink in your hand, take your freedoms for granted.
Sorry, but it seems to me that you are the one taking our freedoms for granted. One doesn't surrender liberty to safeguard it, but that is what you seem to want to do.
Sorry if I take offense to your minimizing the importance of remembering the deaths of Americans and lessons learned.
Well, if you're so sure we've forgotten, then perhaps you can explain to us the relationship between the deaths of Americans and lessons learned and this latest intrusion on constitutional liberties.
Go ahead.
We're waiting.
I bet you'd feel real good if your rantings about inconvenience reduced security enough to let it happen again.
Please explain how secondary screening at the gate will let "it" (by which, I assume you mean 9/11) happen again. Please explain why:
1. a terrorist wouldn't use false ID
2. a terrorist wouldn't plant a bomb in the
uninspected air cargo and mail that is aboard every commercial U.S. flight
3. a terrorist wouldn't fire a Stinger missile from any of the open and unmonitored areas that surround virtually all U.S. airports
4. a terrorist wouldn't use his real ID, as did the hijackers on 9/11
Go ahead.
We're waiting.
I doubt you've ever truely been inconvenienced in your life.
Sorry, but you very clearly haven't thought this through at all. TSA's gestapo-like tacticts offer virtually
no increase in security. If you want to accept them blindly, that's your business, but I'm far more concerned with preserving our constitutional liberties and will not surrender them to pacify sheep who thinks inconvenience and intrusion is the same as security.