Originally Posted by
Inthewind
My point exactly...it's disgusting to me with everything else going on in the world today that you think being detained for 25 minutes is a civil liberty injustice.
And it's disgusting to ME that you DON'T see that it is.
Originally Posted by
Inthewind
Why don't we let everyone fly without ID so even the terrorists can have their privacy! Free movement and association? Are you kidding me?
If they haven't got what one of the TSA's bloggers referred to as "pointy objects" (as in, something that can legitimately threaten the safety of the aircraft and passengers), then yeah, I pretty much don't give a frak if I sit down next to Osama himself. What's he gonna do, if deprived of his AK and Semtek?
Granted, TSA ain't doin' so hot in that department - but checking ID's can only make that WORSE, not better.
Originally Posted by
Inthewind
This is coming from someone who's probably never had to pay for the freedom you seem to think is free.
Well, I don't recall whether Bocastephen is a veteran or not - but THIS is coming from someone who HAS paid for that freedom. USN '91-97, reactor operator on board USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 from '93-97, including THREE tours in the Persian Gulf during my Med cruises, which was a combat zone the entire time I was in the Navy.
How're MY credentials, as far as you're concerned?
Originally Posted by
Inthewind
You know what has me so worked up about this post? It's that most of you complaining about being inconvenienced...having to wait a few extra minutes to get to your first class seat so you can get a free drink in your hand, take your freedoms for granted.
Sorry if I take offense to your minimizing the importance of remembering the deaths of Americans and lessons learned. I bet you'd feel real good if your rantings about inconvenience reduced security enough to let it happen again.
If we HAD some real security, as opposed to the security theater being foisted on us, we might be complaining less (although the civil libertarians among us, including me, won't stop). As it is...