Originally Posted by
Jenbel
majorwibi - I think you are too new onto FT to understand that 'simple moderation' and 'OMNI' don't go well together. Moderators on that forum burned out at a scary rate, so Randy took it on himself. Basically, all of the screaming, shouting and overdramatics we've seen throughout this debate used to occur pretty much everytime a moderator took a decision someone didn't like, and Randy would be appealed to it seemed like on every occasion, usually with the claim that the moderator was politically biased. I wasn't a mod back then, just a frequenter of the forum who used to watch the popcorn threads, but it was not a good situation - and I don't believe that anything much would have changed, particularly since the residents are used to a rather loser interpretation of the TOS than the rest of the board gets...
You are probably correct that I am too new to FT to fully understand how things used to be with OMNI. I just paint the picture as I see it from 2005 until present. And I am having trouble understanding why this apparent double standard allows to exist but I will accept your explanation that I just dont understand the history enough to fully be able to understand the position.
I do moderation on a couple of smaller forums and I know it can be difficult but not impossible to work something like this out. Realistically members usually can police the majority of issue threads once the rules are well defined and concise.
I apologize if my response below comes off like an attack but when I feel that someone is talking down to me I tend to not react well.
Originally Posted by
ozstamps
majorwibi - perhaps you do not completely get it.
OMNI is a totally done deal. Kaput.
Want to argue for other Forums to join it go ahead .. free country. This is the place to start a new thread. @:-)
NO other forum has a single nonsense thread with several folks posting over 10,000 times each to it. OMNI does, and not one single post contributes to miles and points in any way, to any member.
Play away for as many hours as you have free time, by all means, but the posts do NOT count from now on. Seems fair to me. And that decision has been made.
Do you even read what I post or just go and start attacking based on what you think you have read? I'm not arguing for OMNI to stay or even stay like it is. I really have no vested interest in what happens to OMNI other than I dont like that I see a glaring double standard being applied.
Originally Posted by
ozstamps
As I said add a
Sudoku portal there and voilą - 1,000,000 more posts also not related to flying or miles or points. Start a Immedaite Gun Control debate forum, and you'll add another 100,000 - 500,000 posts in months. Actually I'll join that one for sure.
Have a 'Right To Life' forum and add another 100,000 - 500,000 real fast. Let the Amish have a little corner to hang out in perhaps. Or the Black Panthers, Hells Angels, KKK of the friends of Ross Perot - or even Elvis Presley lookalikes. FT will look like a very badly run flea market if those moves go ahead.
It is
far too fragmented and disjointed as it is now - IMHO.
My argument has never been about post counts...
Originally Posted by
ozstamps
Randy seems to feel FT is big enough and respected enough in its core areas that is does best, not to need to add Sudoku type frippery just to artificially boost overall post counts. Smart move.
The fact some members of the current TB are very high on that posting list in that one thread - and voted against it last time will likely mean they will again - no doubt about it in my mind. We will all see in a few days if I am correct. A lot of the TB has a very high % of their posts in OMNI, and self interest clearly seemed at play in the previous vote - IMHO, and I made that view clear at the time.
But it is now a done deal at Randy's direction. So are the Freddie's dates and locations, so are what style the fonts are around here. The system works.
I'm glad you think the system works. I agree with you about 95% of the time on that but I'm still trying to figure out the double standard.
Originally Posted by
ozstamps
All this rampaging thread is hot air to appease the huddled masses led by 2 cheerleaders. Like sending a petition to Congress signed by a few people to demand they lower income tax by 10%. Possible to do, but an ultimate waste of energy and resources.
If you would read our (magiciansampras' and mine) arguments you should be able to see that I dont really care about the masses of OMNI. And if I cannot speak my mind and ask questions about how things work on FT then why does TB even exist?
Originally Posted by
ozstamps
Move onto the
next crusade is pretty good advice.
This one is a show trial.
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I dont do crusades (and based on my post count that should be fairly obvious to you). I hold very little value in peoples post counts but thats primarily because I am educated enough in the travel world to read the BS from the truth.
What I'm really not liking about your posts is essentially you have just attempted to treat me like a little kid with the whole "I'm more mature at FT than you are so just shut up and deal with it" post. Jenbel did a much better job explaining to me how I might not have enough historical view on FT pre-2005 to fully understand the evolution of OMNI.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I see a glaring double standard here and thats all I'm concerned with. Post counts are meaningless to me as they show no measure of actual knowledge but instead show a large amount of time/passion on a certain forum.