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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by jiejie
Vesicle, I'm no longer sure what your point is on this thread. You went from bashing the Chinese to seemingly chastising some of us for staying in China. We're all adults here and have the right to make our own decisions on the tradeoffs we face in our respective situations. I'm not feeling the need to "justify" anything to you or anybody else, and if you're trying to lay a guilt trip or something on those of us who have different opinions, different motivations, or make different choices than you, well...it isn't working.
I was wondering about this myself.

My first visit to China was over 13 years ago -- I was there on business. Of the staff and colleagues who went with me, some loved it and some hated it. I was one who loved it and I've been back many times since and, if I can ever learn the language, and we can afford it by then, Mrs. PTravel and I are considering retiring there. Indeed, if there was any demand for an American litigator who doesn't speak Mandarin, I'd move there now in a heartbeat. I can understand some people not loving China -- so much of Chinese culture is different from the West or heavily-western-influenced cultures. I don't understand the need to simply different dismiss a country that holds 1/3 of the world's population, has a 4000+ year old continuous culture and history, as well as the non-Chinese who find it a fascinating, fun, appealing place to live and visit.

Incidentally, with respect to the original topic of this thread, I've flown many times in China and on many airlines, both Chinese and western. I've certainly never suffered the hell described by the OP. China has the Chinese equivalents of the Gomers and Kettles, rude businessmen, and other unpleasant flying types that we encounter in the U.S. Service on domestic Chinese airlines is dramatically, radically better than service on domestic airlines. I'm not denying his experience. I just wonder how much of it is attributable to pre-disposition and perception.
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