Originally Posted by
gj83
The more dependent society becomes on ID the easier it becomes to get accidentally blacklisted. We have limited recourse right now against the black list.
First our ID must always be presented. Then it must be a standard ID. Then if you don't get a standard ID you are not able to fully partake in society. Then even if you have the standard ID you get blacklisted and told "too bad, fill out this form and wait".
My personal example: I'm just a normal person. When I go to Canada and they see my valid passport they let me in no problem. If they actually swipe my passport I've been flagged and get sent to secondary. If a person uses their own discretion I seem like a normal person, but the computer thinks I'm up to no good. I'm sure Canada's grievance process is as bad as the US's so I haven't bothered.
I don't want to live in a papers please society. First TSA is asking to "present ID", then they want to "handle and investigate" the ID, next it will be swiping and verifying with a centralized database.
I'm not even getting into 1984-esq stuff. I'm just talking about the Real ID stuff coming.
Actually a good portion of that has already happened. At Fort Lauderdale International (FLL) Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Schmidt will tell you that your US Passport is not considered "valid ID" and that the State of Florida law says that you are required to show your driver's license when asked by a law enforcement officer. He is lying on both accounts.
Next time you have a chance to talk with the Broward County deputies at FLL ask them if it still their policy to lie about what is required ID or not.