Originally Posted by
LatusElAl
Craz, I think JFK and EWR are the same market - and I certainly think LY treats it that way. I for one switch between the two all the time and I see many of the same "regulars" at both places. I think sending the new 772's there probably has more to do with LY's need to have them pronto on both NYC and LHR routings and the EWR option serves them best; 027-028 is the quickest turnaround they have in the USA market in general during most of the year. Granted that in JUL-AUG they turn around in JFK in less than 3 hrs, but usually the 001 AC lands at 6 AM and doesn't turn around till 8:00 pm or midnight (tremendous waste). Thus, sending 028 gets back to Israel early enough (8 AM) that the same AC goes to LHR and back (10 AM-ish), and then setting out for another cycle to EWR. If they dedicate both 772's like this, then 027-028 and 315-316 are both consistent products. Only drawback is that they are using the lie-flats on the daytrip to LHR and not where its really needed, on the redeye.
as i stated before, the new 777 will actually see CDG much more than LHR LY315. LHR will mostly be 744 - and the main reson they use the new 777 to EWR is that LY001 is a 744 route. And as for the "redeye" (LY318) does have lie flat - they will use 762/3 - which have very comfortable angled lie flat seats. the pitch on the 767's are 60' while on new 772 its 62'.
Later in the year, the new 777 will go to JFK twice a week but as LY007 (dayflight) and return LY002.
You can check everything i said, its already uploaded on the winter schedule.
22DEC 08MAR 12345.7 0005 (TLV) 0525 (EWR) LY 027 772
02JAN 08MAR ..34... 1040 (TLV) 1600 (JFK) LY 007 772
31DEC 28MAR 1.....7 2050 (TLV) 1345 (HKG) LY 075 772
08JAN 14MAR 1234..7 1730 (TLV) 2100 (LHR) LY 317 762
12JAN 14MAR ....5.. 0905 (TLV) 1230 (LHR) LY 315 762
12JAN 14MAR 1234..7 0905 (TLV) 1230 (LHR) LY 315 744
12JAN 14MAR ....5.. 0905 (TLV) 1230 (LHR) LY 315 762
4NOV 24DEC 12345.7 0900 (TLV) 1310 (CDG) LY 323 767/763/772