OK - just a little personal defence/defense - not quite sure what this thread is about now - the fact that CX treats OW pax well or that CX gives op-ups to staff over paying pax?
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
example. Offering YOU a Prioirty baggage means there are more tagged bags, hence affect us as MPOs. No other Oneworld airline offers this.
Umm - in paid J I get priority baggage - sure I am behind the 12-16 or so F pax and crew but I can live with that. Dont think my OW status impacts MPOs
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
ALso CX's priority system is the best SYSTEMwide and actually works unlike QF/BA even at their homeports!
Yup - completely correct and one of the many reasons I fly CX.
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
Your "reasonable amount" of CX travel might not even compare to a true DM+/DM. Also it is not even out of your own pocket as Full J Class and you are just on corporate discount. Sure it is still valuable on CX, but never assume without you CX will collapse.
Have you seen my Amex statement? Have you any idea of how much I pay for travel? Is there a difference between a true DM+/DM and a false one? Did I ask to be put ahead of a DM or DM+? I think that every airline should treat it's own top tier pax the best - beyond any alliance. As someone who chooses to fly CX but not join their program I made the choice not to get their best benefit - I think I could qualify for CX DM (whatever their equivalent of OWE is) - but as the information is not easily available on their website I have chosen not to make the comparison.
I dont fly exclusively CX as they dont fly to Cyprus, domestically in the US, NYC-LON or domestically in Oz. I am sorry if my travel patterns necessitate using other carriers. Not sure if you realise that CX is part of a global alliance and the only reason that I fly any CX is that it is part of OW. Sure CX wont collapse if I stop flying CX (it is backed by a centuries old english family who have more money than god and love their Oz farming) but sadly I am not as unique or special as my own ego believes and if I think CX is dowgrading the treatment of OW elites then I am not the only one. If a lot of OW pax leave CX then it will have an impact.
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
Why are you stunned towards the resentment of Oneworld elites using the Wing and Pier? BA separates the F Class lounge @ LHR.
Um that is factually incorrect - OWE get access to the F lounge. F pax get access to their own lounge. CX are free to do that in HKG - however if as you suggest the KA lounge becomes the F lounge I will stop flying via HKG (apart from when I have to go there on business) and stop flying CX - admittedly a bit like Leonidas fighting the persians but at least I will feel my point proved (or maybe proven - some days I hate speaking in three languages all of them english)
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
After another DONE4 I came to realise the dispairty of the quality of the lounge.
Yeah me too - the CX F lounge in NRT was a disgrace - or did you just want to focus on the lounges where CX were doing a much better job than other carriers? You know objectivity not necessary here is it
Originally Posted by
rtwdone4
Even the worse CX lounge (eg. the old NRT lounge) is still miles better than what AA offers in the US!
You went to the old CX lounge in NRT yes? Have you been to the LAX F lounge AC in DFW? New AC in JFK? If you are going to make bold sweeping statement make sure that you actually can support them.
Look - honestly I find CX staff the best consistently when I fly. I find AA too casual, QF inconsistent and BA a bit of both. I prefer the CX IFE to any other but I dont like the old J seat over a skybed. The CX lounges in LHR and HKG are great - but the F lounge in SYD is amazing.
I really think before you attack someone for their style of travel and their attitude towards an airline or their policies you should know something about them and not read into it your own prejudices. I pay for my corporate (not corporate discounted) travel with every minute I spend away from my family. I am not lucky enough to be able to self fund multiple J trips to get status - I have neither the cash or the time- but the program is a frequent flyer program not a frequent spender program - if you want status because of how much money you spend - get an Amex Centurion card .