Back on topic (I agree with Viajero) has anyone had any contact with the CX CMB staff that would lead them to believe Cathay is or is not going to return to that market? My personal observation was that the passenger loads were always very light, but someone suggested that they did a thriving cargo business there. If so, their customers are rapidly finding other ways to get their goods to market. Cathay clearly isn't putting ultimate importance on serving the route with a daylight flight.