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Thank you Gary. Your position is quite clear. And I certainly respect that. There is nothing wrong with being on different sides of this issue.

Yet what is this all this obfuscatory 'mumbo jumbo' that the motion was somehow "technically impossible" to implement?

What evidence to you have, if any, that this is so? Oz? Wharv? As I've said before, ad nauseum, it just "ain't" so. Nearly anything is possible with vbulletin software, as I understand it.

Moreover, opening all new posts to read only format did/does not require that by any means. By simply archiving earlier TB threads and limiting access to old threads only to TB members, we get an extremely simple, quick, and clean way to implement such a policy, had it passed. What is so "cumbersome?" Does this not render such objections as meaningless?

Can we please, at last, kindly stop the chatter about how "impossible" and "cumbersome" this motion would be to implement?

The substantive question now, as always, is barring any technical issues, do we as a group wish to permit the FT membership at large to see our deliberations or do we, alternatively, prefer to continue to keep them out.

Again if you recall the last TB elections, only candidates were permitted to post in the "TB Election" forum. Yet anyone could freely read whatever they wished. This worked fine, no?

Again, as I'd said in the other TB thread concerning the results of the vote on my motion that was initiated by Koko,

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...6&page=1&pp=15

After the motion to open the TB failed and results were posted, I made, for the sake of complete clarity, yet another motion:

"I move that we open the TalkBoard Private Forum to all Flyertalk members on a 'read only' basis. This access will apply to all new threads posted after the date of this vote, should the motion pass."

Again, it sits now, without any additional comment, as you know, for over a week already.

Naturally, anyone in favor of it can always second it, correct?

In any case, as I'd also said, barring our eventually opening the forum, we really do need to do something about establishing and communicating a clear policy concerning our internal discussions/disagreements and specifically how we communicate them to the FT memberdhip at large - assuming that we do!

Have you any further ideas concerning how we might best accomplish this?

Mark