Originally Posted by ijgordon
Actually, J to F (A) upgrades are 25,000 miles each way on long-hauls. (40K to India, but I don't know if this cert is valid on that route). So they still are worth something to somebody who will be paying for a "J" fare, though obviously not as much as a VIP, which saves the 25K miles
and the $250 copay, and has a greater potential "audience"
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...#upgradeAwards
There is no copay on J to F upgrades. Also, a few people occasionally report being able to upgrade J to F at 10k miles, though this is a YMMV, big time.