yeah that's right, little old me--one guy--brought them down.

gee, how powerful am I, really?

I love it when others cast blame because they cannot see that CHANGE just DOES HAPPEN!

Look, all these gift cards have eveolved and changed due to massive market response, not just the actions of a few. If that were the case, then why doesnt my complaint letter to some airline make the problem go away? They have to hear the same response from a TON of people, that's why! Oh sure, maybe I wish it were just me, but it aint!

I think your post seems to suggest that it was just me-- or a few guys hanging out laughing, saying, "Hey, let's selfishly grab all the miles and screw the rest of the people!" That just aint right.

I think since this was around for a long time before even I got involved, it was destined to change anyway. Also, the bank was absorbed by Citizens bank when they stopped doing the GCs and Citizens does not have a product like it, so that was the main reason for the termination of the program, I think.

I have always touted a few things that may have actually HELPED PROLONG such gift cards, not kill them:

1) cooperation is better when handling the best methods to work a gift card or program. Then people can educate others (newbies, etc) on how to best use the program and not wreck it. I have been into doing this and have taught methods on how to stay under a radar, etc. But some think that if everyone is stealth and quiet, then everyone thinks that's why a program lives on... BUT the problem with this plan is the (A) it will never stay that way and no one is really qualified to judge who should not be let in the tiny club of stelth participants, (B) people stumble on programs on their own but because no one talks about it, they screw them up without realizing it, and (C) because people tell their friends--even if they think its ok to tell just one friend. Eventually it spreads anyway. there are no secrets. so that doesnt work.
Cooperation does.

2) it's not how many people, it's how they do the gig. BUT change goes on anyway. If everyone knew what to do with charter one, it will still change!

3) new gigs come up all the time. If they are marketed correctly and managed well by the company who made them up, then they will live longer and people like us will find them and use them. But if they are not, they have their own problems, so what do you expect? I say, if you have a problem with the demise of charter one, go find a new gig and play your part in sharing it with those who can also benefit. In turn, they will share their tips with you and hey, what a concept! It could be the very philosophy of FT itself, man!


Finally, please go look at all the other GCs. Go to the VisaBuxx thread and see what I mean about all this...

In fact here's a link to a recent post there:

Getiton has just replied to a thread you have
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Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Received letter today."Bank of America regrets to
inform that effective November 4,2005 ,we will
end our support of the Visa Buxx program.Between
now and November 4th you can continue to use your
Visa Buxx account for purchases and ATM
withdrawals everywhere Visa debit cards are accepted.On
November 4,2005 your Visa account will be closed and
a check for the remaining balance in your account
will be automatically sent to you.We encourage
you to deplete the balance on your card before
November 4th.If you would like to open a new Visa
Buxx account,please visit www.Visabuxx .com to find
a list of current providers.