Originally Posted by
WineCountryUA
...However, it does another thing, the consolation prize, if the up grade does not clear, PremPlus is a significant step up from economy (and even E+)
I'm fascinated that people really seem to consider PremPlus much better than E+. I've taken it a few times but find that for me it's pretty much a nothing burger. Sure you get served dinner on actual plates, but it's the same economy food. And the seats are a bit wider, but they still don't recline enough for a decent sleep. I'm just as good with an E+ window seat where I can lean against the side of the plane (which I can't do in PP because there's too much of a gap).
Originally Posted by
WheelsUpGal
Have you considered Air New Zealand's SkyCouch? You could get two (which would be 6 economy seats). They have leg 'shelfs' that pull up to make a 'bed'. 5 feet long and 29 inches wide. You could at least let one person sleep perhaps and then switch off? Are two of the four, children? I did a dummy booking for Dec 11 - Dec 30. Out of JFK to Auckland and then on to SYD. This is the price RT for 4 people in economy. The SkyCouch is available (they are limited) for both of the long haul flights for these dates and will cost a bit extra. And here is a very recent review from the PointsGuy that explains it. And it's also Star Alliance so you'd at least get some miles?? (
https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/sky...r-new-zealand/) The next time I go to OZ, this is how I will go . . . .
I find SkyCoach to be a real scam. The width you get from the three seats is too little for a person of normal height to stretch out, and I find the seats are less comfortable for sitting because of the space taken up by the shelves. AirNZ also seems to have really flimsy seats, where if the people in back of you are using their touch screens it shakes your row of seats.