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Oct 11, 2022 | 7:12 am

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donjo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lux Flyer

I've tried really hard to avoid replying in this thread as I have some further thoughts on the matter, but I'm going to keep it limited.

But unfortunately "what would have been the case in less than 2 days" doesn't matter. Its the regulations that are in effect on the specified date/time, not what it's going to be. Do we also say to the airlines "well this fare in less than 2 days after I want to fly is $500 cheaper, so just give it to me on the day I want?" or "in less than 2 days I don't need a VISA, so just let me fly today without showing I've obtained a VISA"

And the OP already told us where they have already identified where fault lies for this situation

So that being said, I'm really confused why this is related to United at all, continues to be discussed in the UA forum and whether they were right or wrong in the situation, beyond the fact that they were the carrier who was transporting the passenger. This is ultimately a VISA/immigration issue and the situation would have been the same regardless if it was UA, AA, DL or even ANA who transported the passenger. Except they might have actually charged the passenger the cost of the airfare for the return. If anything OP should be grateful they didn't have any more out of pocket expenses for what was a massive mistake, as they have indicated, by their tour agency.

Thanks for your reply. The only reason I posted this in the United forum was to determine how reliably the international gate agent is at catching errors on these types of documents before allowing a passenger on an international flight. Apparently they are not reliable to any extent. I understand the responsibility ultimately lies with me and I fully accept that. However, like many people who are confused by a dynamic process involving immigration, I chose to hire someone who does this for a living. And that person did not do their job correctly. Lesson learned. My concern going forward as was mentioned above, is how long will I be banned from re-entry now that I have been deported.