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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
I'm not saying AC's hard product is the best. But you don't need the best product to secure a profitable share of the market, and AC has been heavily focused on profitability for a long time. The fairly recent 333 refurbishment suggests AC is comfortable with where it's at when it comes to hard product.
Originally Posted by mileageking
Wasn't getting into who's the best, profitability, market-share, etc. Was simply giving PoV that QR's J Qsuites which launched about 4.5yrs ago would be better than AC's J hard product based on your earlier comments/comparison on AC J hard product to UA, WS, AA, LH and BA. Some may eveb say QR's new Business Class Suite introduced on their 787s (I would rate lower than Qsuites) may even be better than AC's J hard product.
Have to agree with Adam Smith on this one.
AC doesn't need to go chasing tail with the Joneses, that's how you end up being EY.
And I would also be curious what will be done to extend the life of the 321s

mileageking, while I agree in principle of liking a door a la. DL One, QR Q-Suites, BA New Club World; don't forget having more bells and trinkets means there are more chances of the bells and trinkets broken.

Don't forget there's a dedicated thread to deflategate
Deflategate; new executive pods deflating in-flight


Originally Posted by yyznomad
XM went essentially from 2007 to 2014... with DreamCabins starting 2014-ish... I found that XM cabins got beat up and tired a lot faster than the DreamCabin cabins... although AC got more new aircraft since 2014 so that may have something to do with it?
But even being on the low 800 FINs (basically the small lot of 788s), they don't seem as beat up/tired after 6/7 years like XM did... IMHO.
This all falls back on the airline on their Quality Control at delivery and material chosen.

Just be blessed the Dreamcabin has turned out to be a good investment.
With that said, I wouldn't mind stepping on a XM 333, its been ages

CX had the reverse problem
77Ws are lasting good through 10 yrs, bloody thing is built like a tank
350s, yeesh, things breaking apart within 6 months of service

When cabin refurbishing goes wrong, ALOT of money go down the drain.

Last edited by Adam Smith; Oct 6, 2021 at 10:51 am Reason: Off topic discussion of CX
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