Originally Posted by
DCAproducer
Not sure what dates you looked at, but there are FC fares and DL.com let’s you book SAN-JFK-SAN on aircraft with D1 seats. The underlying base fare shown on DL is F.
I didn’t look at EF. I looked specifically at DL’s own booking engine.
But D1 aircraft should get D1 fares on JFK-SAN, not FC fares.
Update -- It looks like this is intentional and JFK-SAN is being dropped from D1 routes. There were new fare filings on 8/19 and JFK-SAN route was dropped from FC fare rules Flight Application section at that point. Here is part of modified Flight Application section ("757 200 WINGLETS" is fare rules speak for the 75S model -- not all 757-200s with winglets). Domestic D1 fare rules were similarly modified and JFK-SAN was removed from those as well. Award fare rules still have previous Flight Application sections which is causing some confusion on award searches.
FC fare rules before 8/19
FC fare rules effective 8/19
Here is current full Flight Application section for domestic FC fares. There are similar ones for domestic D1 fares, but the requirements are reversed and these flights are required instead of excluded.
FLIGHT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX/SFO ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DCA AIRPORT AND LAX ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND SFO/LAX ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SEA ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-900NEO AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN ATL/MSP AND HNL ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND HNL ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-300 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON BOEING 757-200 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON BOEING 767-400 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON BOEING 767-300 WINGLETS AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON BOEING 777 AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN DTT AND HNL ON BOEING 777-200LR AIRCRAFT ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT.