Originally Posted by
Boggie Dog
Even with clear guidance provided by TSA on its web pages, routine training, and in its leadership training on the right and limitations to record some staffers apparently just fail to get the message. I'll be the first to acknowledge that such incidents have been curtailed, or just didn't make a news cycle, but TSA had several cases that received attention. Hopefully TSA is doing better on its training effectiveness.
Filming at TSA Checkpoints
*video mentioned in quote is no longer available.
Yeah, I have seen several more than this one, including the one where they were walking around holding up the gray bins trying to block the view of the person filming. That was at the least unprofessional, and in some other lights, could have been construed as possible harassment. The one thing in common in most of these vids are either a misunderstanding of the public filming rules, or a willful decision to act counter to all the training TSA gives them. I have actually had co-workers that would tell people "you can't film me without my permission, and I do not grant it to you" - I corrected them a number of times, and even heard a supervisor correcting them more than once. They are no longer employed with TSA, but it was a source of frustration for me personally, and professionally. TSA trains our employees from the first set of classes that it is ok to film in the checkpoints as long as a specific set of parameters is not violated, and yet this crops up again and again. I myself have had to advise co-workers of what the rules say, intermittently throughout the years. As I mentioned above, it is a source of frustration for me, because it is really very simple. I can make no excuses for someone that has been through our training, and says something counter to it.
Originally Posted by
Blogndog
So it appears to be only Massachusetts that bans "secret" recordings, meaning that only notice is required, not affirmative "consent". I also know from personal experience in Mass that applies only to audio, not to video. Long story, but at one point was involved in a situation where prosecutor was seeking to charge me with violating this statute, but as I had taped over the microphone and was therefore capturing only video, but not audio, they couldn't make a case.
These rules are ambiguous in some locations. The basics are universal, but some locales thumb their nose at the federal rulings that set the precedence for recording in public spaces. The basic laws I keep seeing indicate that recording "private" conversations without notification is illegal in some states/cities/federal institutions. The confusion sometimes (on both sides) comes from the understanding of what constitutes private - in public, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy (general rule of thumb, backed by case law for ages - in several different 1st Amendment cases). There are even some cases on the books right now challenging wiretap laws in different states and cities, citing this long list of previous judgements against the prohibition of recording in public -
including the law you may have run into in your description above. The rule is fairly simple in *most* situations, and especially in the case of TSA.