Originally Posted by
747FC
Just curious: With 4M Miles on UA, would you prefer their 777 Hawaii lie flat or HA’s?
I took the HA due to 36 hour COVID test turnaround with a partner in LAS. A clear first world problem - I don't see myself in that HA seat again unless they somehow got price competitive - they are way way off the mark. My rt trip in a couple of weeks back to LAS on UA is literally less than 50% of HA's price in F, with the trans-pacific legs in a lie flat seat. Maybe HA really does get $950-$1250 each way from the nonstop, or maybe it is upgrades - if they get that in revenue, more power to them - they wanted an eye popping over 80,000 miles each way in F.
On UA 100% of the time I sleep perfectly on the 777-200 seats from SFO or LAX, many people complain about the 4 across seats in the middle, but I have no issue - they are well padded, have a large entertainment system built in right in front of you - and feel almost bed like when in lie flat mode - they also have multiple controls for the seat, not a single wheel to advance it back/forward. Sometimes you get lucky with the 777-300, no US carrier to Hawaii from the mainland has anything close - it is a spectacular private seat. My only issue with UA seats is when they run the 767-400 from EWR-HNL, it has this small footwell - but I even prefer that. As you said, I am a 4MM on UA - maybe I am a creature of habit. I posted on this thread simply because it already existed and concur.
Take away the seat - the HA service is very good and of course a nonstop has a huge benefit. One thing I did not mention in the good is the plane literally looked brand new inside and out - it almost seemed like an inaugural flight. I just think HA missed the mark on the type of seat they chose - I don't know, maybe it is a limitation of the A330 dimensions. I believe the main driver for HA to go lie flat was pressure from the international carriers coming into HNL with mostly lie flat, to be fair - I don't know how JAL, ANA, Qantas, etc seats compare and maybe that was based in the decision of the seat they chose.