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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 3:01 am
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giorginho
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Originally Posted by :D!
From what I can see:

Gold > Gold: 18 months
Silver > Gold: no change - still 12 months
Silver > Silver: 18 months
Blue > Silver: no change - still 12 months
That's also, possibly (provided silvers also get the indication that they "have until X+6months to collect WXZY miles to reach gold"), not entirely true.

and

First of all everyone who got an extension of their silver status should, in theory, be able to continue accruing miles up to that 18th month, so an upgrade to gold should still be possible (what speaks against this?).
Secondly there are case where golds and silvers get "nothing" (already retained tier through 2022).
Thirdly the only thing they left out were blues with at least (75%) 9.000 miles... clear as day and nothing to do with status privileges as I already explained and you also admit here...
Originally Posted by :D!
...but if there are no flights for 6 months then their tier miles in the prior 6 months are wasted.
But anyway, why would a silver with 6000 status miles get to extend the validity of all these miles (they'll, at some point, have eligible miles from 18 months ago, which, again, I personally think is great!) and a blue with 11.999 status miles won't? You say...
Originally Posted by :D!
However there is a big difference between these "years": the Blue > Silver and Silver > Gold are based on a rolling year. Gold > Gold and Silver > Silver years are fixed from the date you moved up, if you retain the status year-on-year.
...and while the dates for retaining silver/gold are "fixed", you can still (re-)qualify on the basis of the rolling year! Say (for the sake of the discussion disregarding the current extensions offered) you're silver and only collect 7.000 miles in 12 months (of which let's say 6.000 in the last 10 months), you fall back down to blue, but you still have 6.000 qualifying miles and 2 months to get another 6.000 and re-reach silver. Or you're gold, have 11.000 in 12 months (10.000 in 10 months), then you still keep those 10.000 and can upgrade right back into gold if you fly 14.000. Surely that's much harder, but perhaps someone has a long-haul coming up that will get them there (in which case why on earth would I bother with a mileage run just 1 month before my long-haul that will give me back gold? that's another subject).
Originally Posted by :D!
So a blue member doesn't need to earn *more* miles to move up. It's still exactly the same,
wow....
Originally Posted by giorginho
... blue members actually need to accrue more miles to reach status than status holders!! ...
Originally Posted by giorginho
Blue->Silver: 12.000/24.000 miles
Silver->Silver: 8.000/16.000 miles
Blue->Gold: 24.000/48.000 36.000/72.000 miles
Silver->Gold: 24.000/48.000 miles
Gold->Gold: 12.000/24.000 miles
That's all very easy to find on Aegean's website..
Why did you think that blue members now didn't need more miles?
I still have no idea why this is so hard to simply... read! The reference to "now" isn't mine, I never wrote it that way (as in comparing now vs before, I just compared blue to other statuses from my very 1st post here and just in general !!) Even with the rolling vs. non-rolling year, in a 'normal' scenario a blue always needs more miles to get silver, than a silver does to retain silver. In a 'worst-case' scenario the silver gets downgraded and as I already described above he's "another blue" for all purposes, retaining all miles from t-12 months (the status did expire, the eligible miles earned further back than t-12months also expired, but the rest of them did not!), so basically the same as a blue. Similarly, a downgraded gold is still better than a blue, because they just have to fill up the 'silver' pot within the 24k instead of 36k miles a blue would need.
These miles are still counted on a rolling 12-month basis! Aegean won't "force you" to stay silver if you've collected over 24k in 12 rolling months, regardless of when you were "downgraded" from gold to silver!
The status has a 12-month validity, but that's regarding downgrades and (again) only the status! Not the status-eligible miles!
But like I already said, perhaps people have gotten way too used to being golds and making their mileage runs in the last couple of months before the status (and perhaps just some of the miles!) expire.
PS. It isn't the ignorance that upsets me (on the contrary, I'm happy to provide valid information, I too was, and still am, ignorant to many things), but if someone can't read 1-2 simple sentences stating the obvious....
PS2.
Originally Posted by blackball
That is, I will have from May 2021 to May 2022 to requalify for Gold.
How certain is this? From what you describe, you must extended your status from November 2020 to November 2021. That means, that you would need to accrue miles to extend your status again from November 2020 and not from May 2021! Is this something Aegean has already somehow informed you about or did you simply base your calculation on previous practices? edit and reply to self: you had already re-qualified prior to the extension, so miles gathered before the next "cycle" wouldn't count anyway, so that what you wrote is correct.
What I am a tiny bit more interested in are status holders that still haven't extended their status. I would like to see hard evidence that someone who had say 8.000 miles, counting miles from flights from early April 2019 (or even late March 2019) and got the 6-month extension, that these miles are still there (that the "you need to accrue XY miles until XX/YY/ZZZZ" still hasn't changed, even though they now have miles "older" than 12 months there. I know that my wish won't be easily fulfilled though, since nearly everyone here extends status in November each year... edit: Yes, this is also pretty clear from the

but since, like I said, most status holders won't fall in that category, I thought I'd ask someone who does to verify that it actually works that way.
PS3. Getting a bit tired of this (and no personal interest since I wasn't looking to upgrade from blue anyway)....

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