Originally Posted by
moondog
-as a founding member of OW, CX has the power to veto applicants, and this is common knowledge
-their (broken) promise to recruit a Mainland carrier does not strip them of this power
-if CZ was interested in joining OW, they could presumably apply pressure; the fact that they have not not done so suggests that they are happy with the AA and BA partnerships for now
-CX does NOT want a Mainland carrier to join OW. It doesn't matter who the front line people are; as long as the business case doesn't pencil, they will make sure that it doesn't happen.
Which part of CX will not VETO CZ's oneworld membership do you not understand?
As I said before, CX made a promise to oneworld 12 years ago to recruit a mainland Chinese member. But this promise lapsed and CX publicly admit defeat and stated that it would not veto any mainland carrier recruited by AA or BA.
Your 'common knowledge' is true that CX can veto, but my problem is that CX have publicly said it will let AA and BA takes charge in recruiting a mainland Chinese carrier and would not veto whatever the alliance decide.
Plus, as I have illustrated before to you in another thread, CX had no problem about a mainland Chinese carrier, it tried to recruit China Eastern before 2007, then tried Air China soon after, also tried to talk to Shenzhen Airlines as the last resource. CX's only objection was for Hainan Airlines to join oneworld. It had not publicly state its objection on CZ yet.
There is no noise in this thread, but only you are making the noise. I am trying my best to inform you what I know but you are ignoring the most important part and some of the insider knowledge. You can not speak as a management from CX that CX does not want a mainland carrier in oneworld. It is not true and it has never been true.
And before I finish, I can tell you that China Southern had not submitted its application to join oneworld yet, due to other reasons (including its own management issues), CX is not the issue. And I tell you again, CX is not the issue. You have never worked inside CX boardroom, you do not know the process and thinking behind it. And I can tell you many times as you can listen, that CX has no issue with a mainland carrier in oneworld as long as it is not HU.