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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 4:58 pm
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joe_miami
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Originally Posted by lighthouse206
Good Lord. Did you even read my comments? Would Hyatt object to what you did? No.

If the seller wouldn't object or didn’t object then there’s zero issue.

But, if you are intentionally seeking to deceive or lie your way into something of monetary value then therein lies the issue.

Hopefully the Hyatt Concierge will comment on this in terms of whether they consider pretend (but paid for) stays, in order to get Globalist status, to be fraud and would take action against people they think are doing this... which could be easily reported to them by hotels.
There's nothing sacred about actually staying in the room, though. If there was, Hyatt wouldn't be giving status to people simply for having the WoH credit card, or two night credits for each $5,000 one spends on the WoH credit card.

Hyatt obviously wants to avoid giving out benefits when it can, but when people can get more night credits from buying a couch than from actually renting a room, it's hard to get too worked up about it.

Anyway, just as a legal matter, fraud requires proof of intent, and that's all but impossible in most of these mattress-run situations. Last I knew, Hyatt's T&Cs don't require people to present themselves for checkout.
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