Originally Posted by
lighthouse206
Here's an idea - DON'T DO IT. If you can't stay w/Hyatt enough to get status (legitimately) then do something else..
Hyatt now does have a policy of checking rooms every day. That doesn't mean they actually do it. However, you'll note that DND cards are being replaced with "Room Occupied" cards in order to wean people away from expecting they won't come in or try to check on you. If it appears you've left, they will check you out and you take that risk
The bottom line is what you are doing is a form of fraud. You are lying to the hotel (you want them to think you are there when in fact you aren't) in order to gain a future financial benefit in the form of elite status perks which have substantial monetary value. Of course, if you want to simply be upfront with them, tell them what you are doing, and see if they care (they might not - especially if they are a franchise and not booked) then that's an option.
Originally Posted by
lighthouse206
You guys are confusing theft for fraud. They are related but there are differences.
Anytime you lie to a seller to get something of monetary value from that seller that they would NOT give to you if they knew the truth you are engaging in a form of fraud.
Its like a mileage run where you bought the cheapo ticket and figured out how to NOT be on the plane but still get the miles and (extremely valuable) status. That’s fraud too, even though you paid for the ticket. You are cheating the airline out of something valuable.
Bottom line is this kind of behavior is damaging to those of us who play by the rules.
Originally Posted by
joe_miami
Were you "playing by the rules" last year when you left those 1-star ratings for that new Hyatt in NOLA that you hadn't even stayed at because you were mad the restaurant hadn't opened yet?
I'm confused. So, fraud is not staying in a place you paid for? So people who own houses and don't live there are "frauds"? I'm sure when they paid the bank the bank thought they
would live there.
And leaving a review for a hotel you never stayed in-I don't think that is even "kind of" fraud. That is blatant fraud. You aren't even lying by omitting saying something. You are lying by the very fact you are posting a review.
Bottom line is this kind of behavior ("fraudulent review") is bad for those of who who play by the rules (actually review places we stay at).
(and your comment if you don't stay there enough "legitimately"-what is legitimate? You mean people who don't live in hotels (eg travelling most of the year, like some of us) shouldn't be able to obtain status?)