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Old Aug 23, 19, 11:00 am
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Seats on BA and their dimensions

Originally Posted by APUBleed View Post
I hope someone can indeed get a tape measure out next time they fly on a 787 and A350 because I am curious.
I am taking my cue for this thread from a post by @APUBleed, quoted above in this discussion about how cramped (or otherwise) the seating is on 787s:
British Airways 787 vs Others?

Now I've given the matter some thought. One aspect is something I've long since sough to confute is the issue of pitch. Pitch is the traditional measurement of the distance, parallel to the aisle, between two rows of seats, measured on the same point on each row. In the days when all airlines seats were fairly similar and bulky this wasn't a bad guide, but now it has become meaningless. Even on BA's shorthaul service alone, the depth of a former BMI Recaro A320 seat on LGW services is about 3 times that of the Recaro SL3510, the 9 kgs seat used at the back of NEOs. A 29 inch pitch on the SL3510 is more spacious than the 30 to 31 inches on the ex BMI LGW A320 aircraft since the old seats are so much thicker. Opinions will vary as to which seat is intrinsically the most comfortable.

How can one get a view of how cramped a seat or indeed an aircraft is? This is where it gets a bit subjective. My starting point is that legroom isn't really the issue. Most people seem able to get their legs under the seat in front, and with the exception of bulkhead seats - and those extremely tall - there will be sufficient space to stretch out. I appreciate that some people cannot bend their legs under the seat in front for various reasons. It's also physically difficult to measure. But there are two other factors which really make a difference to personal comfort on board: knee room and shoulder room. This is more of an issue for EuroTraveller, World Traveller and World Traveller Plus seating - for example the new Club Suites doesn't have a shoulder room issue, the seats are not connected to each other at the shoulder.

I have made an attempt to define this, and I will try and get some measurements in my future travels. I also need to keep this practical, so things that can be measured effectively and efficiently. I'm focusing on 4 such measurements, using this photo as a guide.

A) Mid seat to mid seat is all about shoulder room. The shorter this measurement, the closer you are to the shoulder of the person sat next to you. Now clearly the seat design can help or hinder this, as well as differences in recline. Here I am measuring the mid point of seat E and the mid point of seat F.

B) Knee room: this is the distance from edge of the seat to the seat in front. However you sit, your knees have to occupy this space. There are a few complexities here - the seat back pocket holding the safety card takes a bit of space, also there is about 1 cm of "give" between the seat covering and the hard back of the seat in front.

C) Seat width: so this is the gap between the arm rests. Arm rests are getting increasingly thin and light, and mostly they can be raised on one or both sides.

D) Seat depth: from the seat edge to the back of the seat to where it joins with the back of the seat.

Here are some initial measurements to get going with:

Any comments?
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