FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Cabotage if one leg on Delta??
View Single Post
Old Aug 12, 2019, 2:18 pm
  #17  
ethernal
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Alaska MVP, Bonvoy (lol) Ambassador
Posts: 2,994
Originally Posted by paperwastage
LAX-ICN-SFO is fine, that's a regular open jaw and doesn't compete with LAX-SFO (who wants to fly 15 extra hours, other to mileage run

AC though would come closer to cabotage

if you try to book USA-canada-USA on air canada, you see a warning. AC wants 6hours/overnight to break cabotage



If you have more questions, ask DOT? This person's lawyer did, and DOT mentions that ~5 days stay Will unlikely institute an investigate for cabotage under various scenarios
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...​​


https://www.transportation.gov/sites...2002-10-28.pdf[/I]
In this document, DOT mentions that transportation between two us points is illegal regardless of duration of stopover,though they are not likely to pursue except in straight forward cases (transportation was continuous or short stopovers that are incident or doesn't break the continuity of the trip)
Of course a 5 night stay wouldn't. But what about my scenario? I fly LAX-ICN, land at 4 AM, attend my meeting late morning, and then head back to ICN in order to catch the 4 PM SFO flight to be there the next morning to do a meeting in San Francisco. This is a perfectly valid situation. I've done something similar before (TPAC with same-day turnaround for a critical workshop with short notice - landed at 5 AM, left at 8 PM that same day).

Note that KE will not ticket this itinerary unless I include a Delta leg (e.g., via SEA). I cannot take both the KE non-stop leg to ICN and the ICN-SFO leg on the same ticket. They are happy to ticket me LAX-ICN-LAX on a similar (indeed shorter stopover - about 10 vs 12 hours), but not LAX-ICN-SFO.

So no, you are wrong. KE at least clearly believes that LAX-ICN-meeting-ICN-SFO is cabotage. I am being blocked from buying a perfectly valid itinerary that best fits my needs (DL does not fly nonstop to SFO obviously, but KE does) because of unintended spillover effects from ridiculous anti-competitive laws.
ethernal is offline