Originally Posted by
niele
I even saw the upscale leather tumi business luggage line at Ross, last time I was there. They were marked down from an average $1750 to $950 ... still a bit out of my range but they were very nice looking.

The Ashton and Arrive lines run in that price range. These are actually joint projects Tumi runs with companies like say...(just as an example) Louis Vitton and they work out the design and materials and Tumi does the branding for a lesser price. Since an actually LV costs $3,000 to $4000 this fill the segment below the $2,000 line but above the $1,000 line.
Anyway back on topic. You can get the exact same pricing and discounts from Tumi if you watch for a sale....minus the obvious VERY HIGH LIKELY HOOD that it is a chinese made knock off with a Tumi tag on it. How do i know? I have done side by side comparisons with various products from electronics to luggage at Ross, TJ and wal mart. There is a wealth of info on the net about how to spot a copy Slightly differnt box, errors in labelling, and suble things like zipper length, pocket orientation even subtle differences in size etc. The average person can't tell but when you take an authentic version and put it side by side with the real one you can ABSOLUTELY TELL and document it..ive done it. The original authentic company can't really help you with that counterfiet product and your warranty will not be honored. These fake products have been flooding retail centers Ross, TJ Maxx, Wal mart etc. like crazy lately and their distributors don't know the difference as they are being sold to the distributor as authentic. It's frankly out of control. It is so bad that the legit companies even hide it as they are afraid it will hurt sales if people are always wondering if all their products (the legit ones) are fakes (in some cases going so far as to reverse their own policy and replace a fake example on warranty just to conceal the problem with so many fakes being out there ((no promise though on that)). You CAN complain to the original store you bought it from if you have proof and photographs etc comparing the original to the fake and they will some times, give your money back. However in a recent conversation i have had with a customer services rep, the reps aren't allowed to openly admit to customers this is a problem that they are aware of...even when caught red handed doing it. They will just apologize and read their customer services script (over the phone they also can't tell if it really is a counterfeit or if you are just some lousy con artist or idiot claiming it is...and the amount of work you have to do with pictures and documentation pointing out each and every difference between fake and original makes it almost not worth it.) My conclusion from from doing research and complaining and looking into this issue is interesting 1) A lot of the bad reviews of high end products is where people bought counterfeit stuff and then found it failed on them but they blamed the authentic company (never realized they bought a cheap fake with a fake label) and 2) Just don't bother spending more than $75 bucks on pretty much anything from a Ross, TJ, Wal Mart etc if you value your money. I have found Macy's to be "okay" in this regard (so far)...
Amazon is a dice roll. I get stuff which i can verify as authentic on amazon all the time but sometimes a fake slips through there as well (especially with electronics). Just don't even bother going to ebay or craigslist etc unless you are almost purposely SEEKING fake gear.