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Old Jun 6, 2019, 7:45 am
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Transpacificflyer
 
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As a reminder, purchases of goods and services made using illegally or fraudulently obtained credit card information are deemed to have been acquired through an illegal means. A party who has directly benefited from that illegal activity can be be pursued under both civil and criminal law and to be expected to disgorge the proceeds/benefits of the unlawfully obtained benefit/financial gain. To those proclaiming the woman's "innocence", that is a side issue. the undeniable fact is that she has benefited from a crime. In Canada, the direct benefit from a criminal act is not allowed. \

To those criticizing Air Canada's fraud detection practices, they are again reminded that financial institutions are not forthcoming with information and that it can and does literally take months to obtain information. The banks are acting to protect their own liability, otherwise they would be on the hook for the vast sums of money lost to cyber fraud and identity theft every year. Air Canada has to walk a very thin line of political correctness. It was suggested that the airline demand credit cards from high risk travelers. The airline would be accused of racial or cultural profiling if the nationalities most often implicated in identity theft were selected for closer scrutiny at checkin. It is an all or none approach. Consider the furor and claims of prejudice when some people are selected for secondary security screening now. EVA demands the CC at checkin and the complaints from westerners litter forums.

To those proclaiming that the woman is some sort of angelic ingenue, an unsophisticated bumpkin from a backward country who was taken advantage of, please note that she was from big modern city and had been living in Canada for some time. She had navigated the complexities of visas, airports, life in both China and Canada and the many scammers who are found everywhere in China. The Chinese government has enough warning notices posted to warn its nationals about credit card theft that one would have to be blind and without hearing to have missed them. As a reminder, inside PVG airport, after the "secure" entry" there are multiple touts pushing iphones. Prudent people avoid them. People who wish to take a chance on counterfeit or stolen property purchase the item. I offer that the woman willfully purchased the ticket knowing that the deal was not legitimate.
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