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Old Apr 23, 2019, 12:32 pm
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ernestnywang
 
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Originally Posted by NetJets Germany
So, in continuation of my earlier post, today I went about getting our daughter added to the two AY segments in our MCA.

Seeing as calling an outstation had worked well for me in the case of QR, I first tried to give AY in HKG a ring, only to find that their line was constantly engaged. After multiple attempts over half an hour, I called their number in Singapore instead (+65 6701 6906). I was surprised to talk to an agent who seemed to have a (very thick) Eastern European accent, but aside from the strong accent his English was very good. Unfortunately, initially he, too, tried to tell me that - as my award ticket had been issued by CX - it was CX who would also have to sell me the infant ticket. With my newly gained knowledge and confidence, I politely but firmly told him that this was incorrect, and that it was, in fact, AY who were the ones holding the powers to issue said ticket. I cited my recent experience with CX and QR, and after two minutes of hesitant pushback, the agent actually said something along the lines of "Okay, allow me to put you on hold while I talk to our back office about this". Ten minutes later he said that he had still not found the answer, but that he would continue to look into the matter for me and call me back later in the day once he had got the relevant information internally. About 1.5 hours later, out of the blue, I received an email from Finnair with the infant tickets generated for both sectors in question. They were free of charge! Half an hour after that, my mobile phone rang, with an unknown number from London calling me; it turned out to be my "SIN"-based agent, who was actually sitting in Europe. He confirmed that the tickets had been issued and that he would send them to me via email shortly; a couple of minutes later, I therefore received my second email from Finnair which contained the infant tickets. The agent helpfully also suggested that I should print off the email and bring it along for check-in, as - while there should not be any problem - it could do no harm and might help clear up any misunderstandings if the system was not showing our daughter's ticket as attached to our own. ^

In summary, the take-away for myself has been pretty much the same as I mentioned earlier with regards to QR:

1. The operating airline is the one who can issue the infant ticket for you.
2. Many agents that you talk to over the phone may not have been trained to know this, so a lot of them will erroneously tell you that CX is the responsible party. If that happens, first try to enlighten them, and if they remain stubborn, hang up and call again, if necessary, at a different outstation.
3. The outstations may have more experience in servicing such requests than head-office. Even there, you may have to try multiple times until you find something who will support you in your quest and either have the tickets issued themselves or escalate the matter internally.
4. Never give up! You are in the right, and it can be done!
Wow, this was not expected. I wasn't able to find AY's HELKUL route (when is it operated?), but for a BRUHELSIN business class ticket, infant ticket is not free.

Maybe AY's interpretation of "10% of the fare" is that when the fare is 0, the infant ticket should be free.

Code:
 1.1ADULT/DAD MR  2.I/1BABY/SON MSTR*I23                        
 1 AY1542J 01NOV 5 BRUHEL SS1  1140  1515  /DCAY /E             
 2 AY 131J 01DEC 7 HELSIN SS1  2355  1715   02DEC 1 /DCAY /E    
PASSENGER DETAIL FIELD EXISTS - USE PD TO DISPLAY               
9MVD.9MVD*A01 1330/23APR19                                      
WPMEUR‡NC«                                                      
PSGR TYPE  ADT - 01                                             
     CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB   NVA    BG              
 BRU                                                            
 HEL AY  D   01NOV DBU0XBE               01NOV 03P              
 SIN AY  D   01DEC DBU0XBE               01NOV 03P              
FARE  EUR   1937.00                                             
TAX   EUR     30.40BE EUR      8.88FI EUR    218.08XT           
TOTAL EUR   2194.36                                             
ADT-01  DBU0XBE                                                 
 BRU AY HEL AY SIN2192.49NUC2192.49END ROE0.883467              
XT EUR4.88DQ EUR1.20XU EUR212.00YR                              
ENDOS*SEG1/2*CHNG FOC/REF FOC                                   
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - AY                                    
ATTN*CHANGE BOOKING CLASS -   1D 2D                             
                                                                
PSGR TYPE  INF - 02                                             
     CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB   NVA    BG              
 BRU                                                            
 HEL AY  D   01NOV DBU0XBE/IN            01NOV 01P              
 SIN AY  D   01DEC DBU0XBE/IN            01NOV 01P              
FARE  EUR    194.00                                             
TOTAL EUR    194.00                                             
INF-01  DBU0XBE/IN                                             ‡
MD«                                                             
 BRU AY HEL AY SIN219.24NUC219.24END ROE0.883467               ‡
ENDOS*SEG1/2*CHNG FOC/REF FOC                                   
ATTN*EACH INF REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING ADT PASSENGER               
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - AY                                    
ATTN*CHANGE BOOKING CLASS -   1D 2D                             
         2131.00                    257.36           2388.36TTL 
                                                                
FORM OF PAYMENT FEES PER TICKET MAY APPLY                       
ADT      DESCRIPTION                     FEE      TKT TOTAL     
 OBFCA - CC NBR BEGINS WITH 516470      0.00        2194.36     
 OBFCA - CC NBR BEGINS WITH 559867      0.00        2194.36     
 OBFCA - CC NBR BEGINS WITH 900024      0.00        2194.36     
 OBFCA - CC NBR BEGINS WITH 1611        0.00        2194.36     
 OBFCA - CC FEE                         0.00        2194.36     
                                                                
INF      DESCRIPTION                     FEE      TKT TOTAL     
 OBFCA - CC FEE                         0.00         194.00     
                                                                
ATTN*AIR EXTRAS AVAILABLE - SEE WP*AE                           
ATTN*BAGGAGE INFO AVAILABLE - SEE WP*BAG                        
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