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Old Apr 10, 2019, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ricktoronto
Yes but enough demand, at low pricing, to justify the several day loss of one aircraft due vs. churn back and forth on 3-5 hour tropical flights?

Canada 3000: And where are they now? Maybe they did not do all that well overall. Kaput 18 years ago. The story of many a LCC over the years in Canada.

Here it is from Wikipedia: On November 8, 2001 the company suddenly collapsed with no warning for travelers or employees. The company filed for bankruptcy, citing a downturn in air travel during the weeks following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States. The fleet was left grounded at various airports around the world, leaving 50,000 vacationers stranded. September 10, 2001 was a record booking day, but within a few days air traffic declined by 50%. The airline was offered a $75 million loan guarantee from the Canadian government under the condition of a 'viable business plan' being produced. By November 7, 2001, the airline had $260 million in debt, and only had $1.49 million in cash. In secret, it had applied to the Canada Labour Board for permission to cut labour costs by 30% by closing its Royal division immediately. The Board would not approve without union agreement. Union offers to cut 700 pilot and flight attendant positions did not provide enough savings immediately and the airline applied for bankruptcy protection on November 8, while it planned to continue flying. By the end of the day, airport authorities in Toronto and St. John's, Newfoundland has seized planes under court authority and the company directors decided to cease operations.
All Canada 3000 had to be was a little bit cheaper than the big boys.

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If sep 11 hadn't happened, Canada 3000 would be much bigger than Air Canada now.

I suspect that Canada 3000 bookings declined way more than 50% from SEP11, as they were mainly leisure like Air Transat. Apparently they were about to reconfigure the seating on their A330-200s to 2 class.

Maybe Jetstar(Australia) will start flying HNL/YVR or HNL/YXX(is that Abbotsford code?) Makes a lot of sense.

Also no one carrier flies BNE/HNL/YVR or SYD/HNL/YVR or MEL/HNL/YVR.

For Australians YVR with a stopover option in HNL. Why not ?

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