Originally Posted by
JimInOhio
Where your post goes astray, IMHO, is making the subtle claim that what happened in Indonesia also happened at Addis Ababa. Sure, it appears there are some similarities but it also appears there are some key differences, too. ....
Well as of today, its the entire world's aviation specialists/regulators making the same "subtle claim" that I am making, the only exception being the FAA. As Canada's aviation minister just stated:
“My experts have looked at this and compared it to the flight that occurred with Lion Air six months ago in October, and . . . there are similarities that sort of exceed a certain threshold in our minds with respect to the possible cause of what happened in Ethi.o.pia,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.ae8d5a727cde
So its not me making assumptions, its the entire world minus Elaine Chow and the Tweeter-in-Chief's administration, which has been talking at the CEO level with Boeing....
Originally Posted by
skidooman
There is a lot of optics there independently of the technical merit of the case. Perhaps we will find that indeed the two cases were related, that Boeing slept on the switch and tried to cover up a flaw so as to not to prevent sales. Or we may find out that this was overblown out of all proportions. Or something in the middle. It is simply too soon to tell. But for sure, right now, unless you are the US and have a vested interest protecting your national champion the easy call is for govt to interdict their airspace to the B737. And this interdiction will only be removed is an authority perceived as independent - not Boeing, not the FAA (whether justified or not) - says that the B737 MAX should be returned to the skies, and under which conditions.
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+1 And I just hope - for the workers and engineers at Boeing who are not making the decisions - that Boeing's tail is not exposed here. The Ethiopian accident better have nothing whatsoever to do with the Lion Air Crash, or there will be hell to pay for both the FAA and Boeing who would have been asleep at the wheel.
Originally Posted by
amtrakusa
a crsh that "looks very similar...", but is it similar? are you qualified to make that statement and start making recommendations?
No, but at this point I don't know a single reputable expert or agency OTHER THAN (1) Boeing, and (2) the FAA, which is NOT making the same assumption.
Originally Posted by
PsiFighter37
Canada just grounded it. At the end of the day, the FAA and Boeing are going to look really foolish for not doing anything.
Absent
indisputable iron clad proof that the accidents do not have a similar failure mode, both will have major reputational damage.
P.s. And AA, SWA, and UA, had better be
really certain there is not a common failure mode, if their is, and they are the only airlines to keep flying the plane, they will take a major reputational hit as well. I can't see them having any certainty, and if I owned their stocks, I would be P.O.ed to see them winging it like they appear to be (with UA being the best of the three in allowing changes).