Originally Posted by
IAN-UK
We know that something went horribly wrong on both the Lion Air flight, and the Ethiopian one.
We know that whatever went wrong, went wrong in the very same phase of flight.
We now that in both cases the pilots were unable to cope with whatever went wrong.
I don't think there is any aircraft type I regularly fly on which you couldn't say those things about though. Take-off (and landing) is inherently one of those phases of flight where things can go wrong - there are fewer fatal accidents when planes are in the cruise.