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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy


This is a good example of off-vintage. 1985 ducru is a not so good year. It is cheaper to buy that now than, say 2016 ducru. Still exeptional wine for airlines, though.

Haha mate, in this case I think it's kinda semantics here. There is simply no way you can source ex-Chateau the amount of wine EK is buying for a 30+ year old vintage, period. I buy a decent amount of wine, and it can be a struggle to acquire what I want regardless of having been at this game not a short period of time. And I'm just an individual collector....not an airline! Something like 1982 is not available for sale in bulk period unless maybe a big auction is coming up with a well-known cellar for sale. Outside major auctions, you're just not going to find unlimited and well-stored/documented cases of whatever chateau you want in a given year at EKs size. I doubt EK has a big choice in old vintages if they want to roll it out fleet and lounge-wide. They aren't just buying a case or two!

Anyway, i don't disagree with you about the vintages. I'm just saying (apologizing) i feel like EKs wine list feels quite professionally curated, not just bling. That's not an accusation I think they deserve. Obviously, they have a serious budget for it, but curation has occured. If you want just stupid bling and no curation, look no further than my home airline CX. They have a much smaller budget, blow it all on Krug NV and now Krug 2004, and the next nicest wine might be Ducru 2008. The whites in F are sometime all US/Aussie oak bombs that are maybe a cut above "two buck chuck"..... maybe. The red Burgundy, if available, is almost always quite poor. They are going for blogger high fives with the Krug and Krug vintage at the expense of everything else (because the bloggers are completely clueless when it comes to knowing anything about wine except Champagne price). So what I'm saying is, CX could've allocated their budget differently. I feel like EK has done a nice job around the rest of the wine list too, not just the famous 1st Growths / Grand Cru Classes A they're serving. I had am absolutely lovely white CDP on a recent EK flight. That's someone who is thinking about wine, whoever stuck that on there. I guarantee you EK gets no blogger love for that pick, brilliant as it was.

I also agree with the fellow above, it's not totally relevant for the 2nd or below Growths.
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