Surprisingly, I see QF J saver award availability for LAX-SYD in January outbound and one SYD-LAX in mid February.

But routing through SYD with a real long layover both ways result in 32 and 40 hour trips at a minimum, outbound and return from SFO/SJC.

Just brutal trip duration both ways. I suppose you can have layover in SYD both ways to make it more tolerable? I think the longest one-way trip I've endured is around 25 hours for going to SYD and back on an AA award.

Are there any other options to New Zealand using AA miles on OW or other AA partners?


I also tried SFO-BKK in January as well. No J or F savers at all but the Y savers had similarly long trip, 35 hours outbound with a long layover in HKG. I know CX is an option but I guess aa.com doesn't show CX availability at all? So would CX's site show availability that AA miles holders can access and redeem?

There are attractive miles offers from Citi but it seems pretty hard to redeem unless one can really endure long layovers in both directions after a TPAC segment.


I wouldn't mind stopovers in either SYD or HKG (though I've been to both several times and these are not the cheapest places for hotels, even for a few nights) but I thought they eliminated that benefit.