Originally Posted by
3Cforme
How many domestic AA routes get lie-flats where EXPs get free upgrades?
All of them
Originally Posted by
flyerCO
AA only upgrades to their business cabin, which is equal to Domestic FC except with lay flat. No upgraded meals/service, 2/2 seating, etc. AAs more or less equal to D1 (Transcon First) doesn't get upgrades for free to the cabin.
that's not true. Definitely upgraded meals and service. A321T layout is frankly much better than 75S since there are only 102 seats vs 168 seats. Let's not make any excuses here for lack of upgrades on Delta.
I think some of these new D1 are dumb. SEA already flopped, due to same mistake they're repeating, price. SEA will happily pay for FC, but $2200 for D1 is more than they're willing. Only market ex-SEA I could see this working is MIA.
LAS is not a premium heavy market. Of any of these, SAN is the only that makes sense.
B6s MINT works due to their pricing. Till DL learns that these new D1 routes are IMO destin to fail.
agreed, I don't see how Delta could compete trying to price match mint.
They already have the least profitable NYC operation amongst the big players, this will make it even more unprofitable.
If they are actually doing this, it's to keep corporate contracts.
Originally Posted by
bennos
I agree. DL couldn't make JFK-SEA stick when they were the only "premium lie flat" carrier on the route, it's hard to believe it would work with both DL and B6. DL could be intentionally trying to chase B6 off the routes by trashing premium yields.
Eh, B6's pricing isn't what it once was. I usually find B6 more expensive on the CA TCON routes.
The problem is that when pricing is low, mint still makes money. It's simply printing money on JFK-LAX/SFO. JFK-SAN is making a lot of money these days.
They even make FLL-SFO/LAX despite charging sub $500 in many cases and are actually yielding higher than pre-mint.
How low would DL have to price D1 to make it unprofitable for mint?