Got it and as I said our wine experiences with the standard included wines has run the gamut from excellent to rubbish. Interestingly three years ago we boarded Silver Wind in Athens and I noticed there was an overseas shipping container being unloaded into the ship. Looked like boxes of wine but I didn't pay much attention at the time. Turned out the owner and maybe 10 to 20 other managers and family from Frog's Leap Winery out of Rutherford, CA were on the cruise. I don't know what arrangements they had made with Silversea but for that 9-day cruise Frog's Leap was the main wine served. The owner was out and about and actually very engaging. He and one of his cellar masters conducted wine seminars and tastings throughout the cruise. All unannounced prior to the cruise so it was a pleasant surprise. Can't say I tasted every wine they brought on board but the ones I tried were not bad.