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Aug 6, 2016 | 8:48 am

#395

pandaperth

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JAXBA

Ugh!

I checked Amadeus to see how QF and AA had it filed and of course QF doesn't have the para 4(h) line, as we knew. I also compared paras 3(a)(b) for differences and, well, spot the difference:

QF filed:

Code:

            3. TWO PERMITTED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST
            A. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN AFRICA
            //AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-RTW-EUROPE/MIDDLE
              EAST-AFRICA//
            - ONE OF THE VISITS TO EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST MUST
            BE A TRANSFER WITHOUT STOPOVER BETWEEN AFRICA
            AND THE PREVIOUS/NEXT CONTINENT
            - IF TRAVEL TO/FROM EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS
             THE ITINERARY MAY NOT INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH
             AFRICA.
            B. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING OTHER THAN AFRICA
            //EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST//
            - ONE OF THE VISITS TO EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST MUST
             BE A TRANSFER WITHOUT STOPOVER BETWEEN AFRICA
             AND THE PREVIOUS/NEXT CONTINENT
            - IF TRAVEL TO/FROM EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS
             THE ITINERARY MAY NOT INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH
             AFRICA.

AA filed:

Code:

3. TWO PERMITTED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST
A. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN AFRICA
//AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-RTW-EUROPE/MIDDLE
EAST-AFRICA//
- ONE OF THE VISITS TO EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST MUST
BE A TRANSFER WITHOUT STOPOVER BETWEEN AFRICA
AND THE PREVIOUS/NEXT CONTINENT.
B. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING OTHER THAN AFRICA
//EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST//
- IF TRAVEL TO/FROM EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS
THE ITINERARY MAY NOT INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH
AFRICA.

I have highlighted the differences between AA's version and QF's version.

So, my understanding of AA's version is:

If I choose to take advantage of the backtrack provisions of Paragraph 4E3, in other words backtracking through Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from Africa, then if American Airlines tickets the itinerary:

I cannot have segments (whether flown or not) between Europe and the Middle East – whereas with Qantas I can have such flights
If I originate in Africa and have both visits to Europe/Middle East via the Europe zone of the continent, then I am allowed to include South Africa and/or Mauritius in the itinerary – whereas with Qantas that inclusion is not allowed
If I originate other than in Africa, then I am allowed stopovers on both visits to the continent of Europe/Middle East – whereas with Qantas one of the visits must be a transfer without stopover

So with AA these itineraries would be valid (but invalid with QF):

JNB-oCPT-LHR-DME-LHR-LAX-HKG-MLE-xLGW-oMRU-JNB - through Europe twice yet including SA/Mauritius

LAX-HKG-MLE-oDOH-oAMM-oDOH-JNB-CPT-oLHR-oDME-oLHR-LAX - stopovers in Middle East prior to Africa and stopovers in Europe after Africa

We need someone to try booking one of these with AA ATW desk

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