Originally Posted by
trueblu
Thanks CdnBlue,
Very comprehensive. Just a few questions:
1. Shirt prices seem considerably more (relatively speaking) than the suite prices you paid -- and much more than prices for shirts at that tailor quoted on the interweb -- you did mention fabric, but any other reason?
2. You mention 120s silk: 120s is usually a fineness measure for wool in suits: were the suits wool or silk?
3. Without meaning to criticise too much: I'm blown away that you shop around for a quality tailor in BJ and then are willing to blow >$1500 in the Silk Market!! I again appreciate your comment about 'relative quality' of the knock-off, but I just don't get it? After four years here, we've still never bought anything substantial at these markets (except at a lovely Cashmere stall at Yashow that has now disappeared -- they generally only sold unbranded goods at fair prices). Partly because I refuse to buy fakes on principle, but also because the quality is just subpar. There are (reportedly) some 'grey market' 'fakes' around, which are very good quality, but they _never_ operate in the Silk/ Pearl market but in rather more dodgy circumstances, because the IP holders are far more worried about those guys and actively try to shut them down.
4. Back to the suiting: were your wools (assuming it's that) and cottons for the shirts from branded suppliers (e.g. Zegna, Holland and Sherry etc.)?
tb
ETA: also, I just want to clarify the pricing. Adding up everything you ordered according to the second post comes to ~$4000...something is wrong (assuming I read correctly that you had 6 shirts made).
I'll respond to your questions one by one:
1. No special situation for the shirts. Just good quality, good fit, top end cotton.
2. I meant wool not silk. As you likely are aware there is really no way for me to verify if in fact the wool was 120 or 90. It was top grade by my own assessment having purchased Zegna and other top brands for my husband here in the USA.
3. No criticism taken

. We enjoyed the "fun" of teaching our 7 year old to bargain for things and we had a great morning talking and bargaining with the sales people. They were fun. The clothes we purchased are kick around clothes like shirts, sweaters and jeans. Stuff one would wear on a weekend crawling around on a floor playing Lego army guys. Standard jeans downtown Chicago will run me $125 - $150 a pair and they look the same and just plain denim and stretchy denim. The purchase of my two handbags did not happen in a store front. I walked into a very nice looking store but then told the salesperson I didn't want the cheap quality bags showing on the shelves and asked where to find the "better quality" items. She then took me, my husband and my son to the parking garage and over to what looked like a utility closet. she knocked and a man opened the door and let us in. Inside was wall to wall knock off bags, most of them were thee cheap Louis Vuitton ones that everyone tries to sell you. I looked around and said "No", I'm looking for real leather, quality stitching, etc.. that's when he opened a curtain at the back and I saw the very good quality bags. Like I said, I purchased a very large black knock off Prada tote. I actually would have paid more if it didn't say Prada on it but it was supple leather and the type of quality I wanted for the right price. Someone else might pay more and someone else might pay less you just have to get what you feel good about paying. My evening bag is beautiful and doesn't need to be top quality because it gets very gently use.
4. No. Jenny can get almost anything but she chooses to stock her store with only the best quality items she things she can sell. She loves wool and cashmere. she makes all her own clothes too and wears them at the store. If you go to the store you will see many items she had made in both men's and women's styles. She has some items she makes on spec sitting on racks for her customers to buy off the racks. Since you live there go to her store and tell her Rhea sent you and ask to look at her men's and women's items. She will let you see everything. You can inspect her work for yourself and see the fabrics she has on hand. Or, you can discuss the type of fabric you want and ask if she can source it for you. We liked Jenny so much we invited her and her husband and daughter to visit us and be our guests at our home in Chicago. She's never been out of Beijing before but if she ever plans to travel she said she'd take us up on it.
Lastly, getting a fair price was our goal. Fair to some is less than what we paid and fair to others may be more than what we paid. We paid her a nice sum of money for a large order and challenged her to complete it all in 4.5 days. When we were being measured she appropriately set our expectations telling us she wasn't sure she could get it all done but would be happy to FedX whatever was not complete to us. We weren't expecting it to be all done. We returned to her shop on Friday for sizing and fit of half made items. Once we determined everything was fit correctly she worked madly to get it all done by Sunday at 3pm. She did it and we were so appreciative.
I will send pictures if I can find enough time to learn how to upload them to Flyertalk. Feel free to ask anymore questions. I'm happy to share.
Sometimes in life you just have to go for it. This was one of those times that we trusted her and placed a large order up front without having seen anything made for us previously. However, the risk was pretty low given that I had her referrals and could see the work of the garments she had on the racks.
I hope this helps.