Originally Posted by cestmoi123

So, what specific harm has been suffered by someone who's placed on the no-fly list, doesn't know it, but never flies? Vague claims of some sort of badness won't hold up - no injury, no case.

If a car dealership decides that, if you ever bring your car in for service, they're going to use orange juice instead of motor oil, and you never know that they have that plan, and you never take your car in for service, you haven't been harmed in any way.