Originally Posted by
kettle1
These kicking little "bundles of joy" can fly in any class of service offered. No guarantees. The same could have happened in business class or FC.
I am still laughing at the $1330 paid for an empty seat.
Unreal.
KE is laughing all the way to the bank with that $1330.
Sorry, my friend, but on an aircraft that has a 3-4-3 configuration you are probably going to have a stranger sitting next to you for 14 hours. If you are with your wife you are going to be in the middle seat all that time. Now, what if one of those rug rats were sitting next to you? Or an obnoxious person, or a very overweight person, or a person who doesn't shower? Paying for an extra seat allows for a lot more room, especially when the seat dividers are pulled up. It also makes it so that nobody is sitting next to you. It's cheaper than getting two premium economy seats and drastically cheaper than business class. Keep on laughing while my wife and I travel in relative comfort.
Originally Posted by
BuildingMyBento
Guarantee? Unless you personally book the whole J/F cabin or own a plane in which you offer Y/J and/or F, that's an impossible guarantee.
With First Class and Business Class cabins being mostly filled by two types of people, frequent flyers being upgraded and airline employees getting free travel, there is no guarantee that civilized people will be in those classes. Anybody can build up frequent flyer miles. They don't have to have any class to be flying Business and First these days. And, airline employees are certainly not among the upper class. When I worked for a large multinational corporation the company insisted that I fly first class for long haul flights and at other times business class. A lot of these people are definitely not upper class. I can't tell you how many flights where I had to put up with obnoxious people who thought they were entitled. Drunks, vulgar language, and guys hitting on the FA's. One time, on a Cathy Pacific flight I had to report a group of FA's to the Purser because they were drunk and foul mouthed. My wife and I were in first class and we couldn't even get the FA's to acknowledge us. If you fly enough you will eventually see everything.
Originally Posted by
vishalgupta22
May be I am missing something but if you buy an extra seat and don't board can't the airline give that seat out to someone?
How could they do that? You have a paid ticket for the unoccupied seat. Nobody can sit there, it's your seat.
Originally Posted by
dkjb3t4
yup.
And as some people have said, even then it's not a "guarantee."
OBVIOUSLY, it's not some sort of a fundamental human right to fly without being annoyed.
OBVIOUSLY, annoyances are more common in economy than in first class.
If you have a problem with those statements, I hope you find that unicorn airline in the future that's perfect and everyone is super ^
It's just like if you were in a bar and somebody in the bar is annoying you beyond reason. You call the police. The police come and remove or arrest the person. The FA is the police on board an aircraft. You notify the FA. If the annoyance doesn't stop you notify the supervisor. If it still doesn't stop you notify the pilot advising that you are going to call the police when the aircraft lands. There is never a reason to put up with major annoyance or bad behavior. I don't care what permissive society that we live in today.
Originally Posted by
weero
Actually LH is the only airline I know who makes a serious and credible effort in telling children off and admonishing parents to administrate and control what they produced. And I appreciate it very much. Even the Japanese carriers are not as disciplined as LH.
And while ADD and just generally terrible kids sporadically occur anywhere, they are produced and pampered in Asia. If someone lets their brats scream around in the lounge or provides their 2 year old with a blaring DVD player and no headphones (as did a {ethnic reference removed by moderator - unnecessary to make poster's point} family recently in the SEN lounge on VIE), they are regarded as enormous sphincters.
But here people do this in concerts, cinemas, lectures ... why should a child that can barely grunt a few words not operate a cell phone during a late night movie screening? After all the whole world has to gyro around the terminally spoiled heir.
So is it a surprise that this happened on that route and that carrier and that neither management nor FAs could care one dime? Absolutely not.
Japan is the one glorious exception indeed.
Leave it to the Germans.
Originally Posted by
fleur_de_lys
Ha, Ha that happened to me once where the kicking was going on for at least half an hour and I politely asked the parents if they could tell their child if they please not do not (this child was old enough to know better). Eventually I just stood up, turned around and said in a loud voice to the kid that if he didn't stop that right now, I was going to have him arrested when he got off the plane (of course he didn't know that wasn't going to happen) but that stopped him promptly from doing it for the rest of the flight. Mother didn't say a word.
She's probably used to being arrested.