Agreed Johnny and that all makes sense, AV always has my FF# so I'm puzzled as to how she didn't have it this time, I'll check in with them on my orbitz bookings in MDE and it's always attached as Star Gold on the BP already, but we'll see how this goes.

I was looking for you to clear up if they meant if you had to have status THROUGH them or just on Star Alliance. So I asked them again and they sent me this.

Muy buenas tardes

El ascenso automático se lo pueden obtener ambos tipos de pasajeros, puedes obtener más información sobre este tipo de ascensos visitando el siguiente link:

http://www.avianca.com/en-us/travel-...lifemiles.aspx

De igual forma puede obtener un ascenso el mismo dia de su vuelo siempre y cuando haya espacios disponibles.

Esperamos que la información sea útil
De antemano un feliz viaje

Cordial saludo

That clears it up for me, looks like both types of passengers are eligible, but I hesitate with the way they use the word automatic.

In any case I'm hoping to be the guinea pig on this one there wasn't really any info about the Copa upgrade auctions on here before and I went ahead with it anyway, so here goes nothing!