Originally Posted by
elal767
You sure have great knowledge of El Als operations for somebody who is looking to buy the company and claims the current management is failing because it doesn't understand the aviation industry...
You seem to be unable to distinguish between management ineptitude, operations management, and security, all of which are different aspects to EL AL's operations, and while intersecting to produce the EL AL product, are entirely different things.
I am not the only one claiming the management is failing to understand the aviation industry. There are a plethora of articles not only claiming this point but now some are calling for EL AL's bankruptcy and reconstitution. Are you trying to claim the opposite, namely that EL AL's management is competent and the company is well run?
Also, asking a simple question in reference to EL AL security pertaining to a recently publicized and highly humiliating event for an airline that touts itself as the most secure in the world is neither an indicator of "great knowledge" of EL AL's operations or lack thereof, particularly when security is different from operations management.
Originally Posted by
elal767
I won't go into operational details, but suffice to say that with any airline on earth, including El Al for the matter of the fact, the procedure for an unruly passenger is very simple:
1. Knock out the bad guy
2. "store" him in his seat in such a way that he can't do any further harm
3. Get the plane on the ground as soon as possible and get rid of him.
Are you now claiming to be an aviation security expert? Also, if EL AL's security options in an event like this are no different than that from any airline in the world, then explain how can anyone regard EL AL as the safest airline in the world, security wise? Isn't the whole mystique around EL AL security indicative that EL AL has more options than other airlines in dealing with security situations?
Originally Posted by
elal767
If you find a way to blame this on Mrs. Borovitch and to show us how the business plan you submitted to her would have avoided this - go for it. In the meantime, let's stick to the facts
Who said anything about Mrs. Borovich? Did I ever mention Borovich in conjunction with this situation? No, and again you seem to be combining different extraneous (to this topic at hand) issues together for the purpose of confusion and trying to ascribe words to me that I never mentioned for some sort of a personal agenda.
All I did was ASK a simple question as to why the a/c had to land in SOF rather than proceed to its final destination (which is not that far away) if EL AL security had (or should have had) the situation under control. Afterall, one of EL AL's advertising points is it's security and the Israeli government pays for it. Certainly, given EL AL's reputation as the most secure airline in the world, one would think that an EL AL flight would not have to make a financially costly unscheduled landing due to an unruly passenger because on board security would have handled the situation. Consequently, based on deductive reasoning one can reasonably ask whether EL AL is becoming lax when it comes to security (as they seem to be when it comes to m/x).
Since you've sort of indicated knowledge/expertise in aviation security, let's hear your answer.
Also, if you did not like my pondering whether EL AL even had security personnel on board this particular flight you could have voiced your own opinion on the issue or even objecting to my raising such a point without personalization and bringing in numerous extraneous topics in a discourse dysfunctional manner. But alas, it seems you have an agenda.